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  3. The LockpickingLawyer generally demonstrates that locks are basically security theatre, but this particular lock bypass is so egregiously bad I couldn't even understand what was happening at first.

The LockpickingLawyer generally demonstrates that locks are basically security theatre, but this particular lock bypass is so egregiously bad I couldn't even understand what was happening at first.

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  • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG This user is from outside of this forum
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    The LockpickingLawyer generally demonstrates that locks are basically security theatre, but this particular lock bypass is so egregiously bad I couldn't even understand what was happening at first.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwtaA-eq88E

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    • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

      The LockpickingLawyer generally demonstrates that locks are basically security theatre, but this particular lock bypass is so egregiously bad I couldn't even understand what was happening at first.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwtaA-eq88E

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      @gloriouscow ah yes, when you have two different teams design not talking to each other

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      • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

        The LockpickingLawyer generally demonstrates that locks are basically security theatre, but this particular lock bypass is so egregiously bad I couldn't even understand what was happening at first.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwtaA-eq88E

        petrillic@hachyderm.ioP This user is from outside of this forum
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        @gloriouscow wow, that's... egregious. Although I guess you could pull it apart and coat the pads with something (even nail polish probably) to make it much harder without something like tiny ultra-sharp pogo pins.

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          @gloriouscow wow, that's... egregious. Although I guess you could pull it apart and coat the pads with something (even nail polish probably) to make it much harder without something like tiny ultra-sharp pogo pins.

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          @petrillic I just want to be a fly on the wall at one of these lock companies. Do you think they watch these videos? Do you think anyone ever pointed this out during development? Did anyone care?

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            @petrillic I just want to be a fly on the wall at one of these lock companies. Do you think they watch these videos? Do you think anyone ever pointed this out during development? Did anyone care?

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            @gloriouscow you would think, by now, they would be quite aware? And again, no lock is ever going to perfect, or likely unpickable, but companies continue to make egregious mistakes like this.

            But then I look at the computer industry, and well...

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            • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

              The LockpickingLawyer generally demonstrates that locks are basically security theatre, but this particular lock bypass is so egregiously bad I couldn't even understand what was happening at first.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwtaA-eq88E

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              @gloriouscow I understood what the flaw was right when he picked up the battery leads... We learned nothing as an industry. Or at least the knowledge does not seem to propagate.

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                @gloriouscow I understood what the flaw was right when he picked up the battery leads... We learned nothing as an industry. Or at least the knowledge does not seem to propagate.

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                @infosecdj The thing that confused me was that he barely inserted them. I was expecting them to get shoved up in there somewhere, so then I was trying to work out how applying 3v to the number pads would open the lock...

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                  @gloriouscow wow, that's... egregious. Although I guess you could pull it apart and coat the pads with something (even nail polish probably) to make it much harder without something like tiny ultra-sharp pogo pins.

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                  @petrillic @gloriouscow you can rather NOT have motor pads here on the side of the keypad.

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                  • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                    The LockpickingLawyer generally demonstrates that locks are basically security theatre, but this particular lock bypass is so egregiously bad I couldn't even understand what was happening at first.

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwtaA-eq88E

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                    @gloriouscow

                    ...

                    ...

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                    • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                      The LockpickingLawyer generally demonstrates that locks are basically security theatre, but this particular lock bypass is so egregiously bad I couldn't even understand what was happening at first.

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwtaA-eq88E

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                      @gloriouscow

                      do lock companies do any kind of quality control testing? Or is their brand name only for "the world is full of honest people"

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