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  3. I'm doing a eekly 1hr meeting where I'm going over with a director of engineering my soap box on managing a product management organization and actually it's coming out to be a pretty good episodic thing

I'm doing a eekly 1hr meeting where I'm going over with a director of engineering my soap box on managing a product management organization and actually it's coming out to be a pretty good episodic thing

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    I'm doing a eekly 1hr meeting where I'm going over with a director of engineering my soap box on managing a product management organization and actually it's coming out to be a pretty good episodic thing

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    • grumpasaurus@infosec.exchangeG grumpasaurus@infosec.exchange

      I'm doing a eekly 1hr meeting where I'm going over with a director of engineering my soap box on managing a product management organization and actually it's coming out to be a pretty good episodic thing

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      Topics have been

      - different types of product managers and the basic skill sets in developing requirements
      - how product managers ensure an ongoing cadence for an engineering team
      - dealing with product managers with varying backgrounds (engineering, data analyst, operational SME, consulting etc)

      what's been fun is that this Director and I worked at a previous company with product managers that I didn't manage and I'm able to reference "hey remember that person? that person was awesome and here's why."

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      • grumpasaurus@infosec.exchangeG grumpasaurus@infosec.exchange

        Topics have been

        - different types of product managers and the basic skill sets in developing requirements
        - how product managers ensure an ongoing cadence for an engineering team
        - dealing with product managers with varying backgrounds (engineering, data analyst, operational SME, consulting etc)

        what's been fun is that this Director and I worked at a previous company with product managers that I didn't manage and I'm able to reference "hey remember that person? that person was awesome and here's why."

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        ok I'm getting a #sadAssSalad for lunch today.

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        • grumpasaurus@infosec.exchangeG grumpasaurus@infosec.exchange

          ok I'm getting a #sadAssSalad for lunch today.

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          @grumpasaurus it may be sad. But it is a healthy choice. 👍

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          • grumpasaurus@infosec.exchangeG grumpasaurus@infosec.exchange

            Topics have been

            - different types of product managers and the basic skill sets in developing requirements
            - how product managers ensure an ongoing cadence for an engineering team
            - dealing with product managers with varying backgrounds (engineering, data analyst, operational SME, consulting etc)

            what's been fun is that this Director and I worked at a previous company with product managers that I didn't manage and I'm able to reference "hey remember that person? that person was awesome and here's why."

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            @grumpasaurus it is interesting to work with Product Owners who have different strengths. One was excellent at team dynamics, prioritizing, and cutting out unnecessary requests, but not so good at writing requirements. Another is excellent at writing requirements, but not so good at all the team stuff.

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            • jillsjoy@nerdjoy.socialJ jillsjoy@nerdjoy.social

              @grumpasaurus it is interesting to work with Product Owners who have different strengths. One was excellent at team dynamics, prioritizing, and cutting out unnecessary requests, but not so good at writing requirements. Another is excellent at writing requirements, but not so good at all the team stuff.

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              @JillsJoy yeah, and while an organization can definitely allow both types of people to succeed, it really is necessary for an organizational leader to make a decision as to whether that is acceptable or not and establish the performance evaluation process appropriately to maintain the culture that they want

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              • grumpasaurus@infosec.exchangeG grumpasaurus@infosec.exchange

                @JillsJoy yeah, and while an organization can definitely allow both types of people to succeed, it really is necessary for an organizational leader to make a decision as to whether that is acceptable or not and establish the performance evaluation process appropriately to maintain the culture that they want

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                @JillsJoy most managers deal with a hand that they've been dealt but especially director on up you need to know that working with a discard pile and drawing from the deck is an option that should be considered more often

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                • grumpasaurus@infosec.exchangeG grumpasaurus@infosec.exchange

                  Topics have been

                  - different types of product managers and the basic skill sets in developing requirements
                  - how product managers ensure an ongoing cadence for an engineering team
                  - dealing with product managers with varying backgrounds (engineering, data analyst, operational SME, consulting etc)

                  what's been fun is that this Director and I worked at a previous company with product managers that I didn't manage and I'm able to reference "hey remember that person? that person was awesome and here's why."

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                  so in various email chains and slack threads I'll forward them to said director (if he's already not in there) and be like "ok a GOOD product manager would do THIS" and a "BAD product maanger would do THAT" rememember when so and so did THIS? that was good.

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