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  3. I also quite like Liquid Glass (though implementing it at scale has not been fun).

I also quite like Liquid Glass (though implementing it at scale has not been fun).

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    RE: https://tapbots.social/@mark/116281166238683651

    I also quite like Liquid Glass (though implementing it at scale has not been fun).

    The people most against Liquid Glass are the people who are really afraid of macOS becoming more closely aligned with iOS and iPadOS, which is perhaps why they're overindexing on the little things and silly, fixable bugs instead of talking about the larger picture — the Mac is evolving to serve a different audience makeup (wait for the Neo effect), and some people are simply going to be left behind

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    • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

      RE: https://tapbots.social/@mark/116281166238683651

      I also quite like Liquid Glass (though implementing it at scale has not been fun).

      The people most against Liquid Glass are the people who are really afraid of macOS becoming more closely aligned with iOS and iPadOS, which is perhaps why they're overindexing on the little things and silly, fixable bugs instead of talking about the larger picture — the Mac is evolving to serve a different audience makeup (wait for the Neo effect), and some people are simply going to be left behind

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      The Mac has been aligning with iOS since 2006, in fits and starts.

      It's been so slow that it's often hard to notice year to year, but sometimes it makes a significant lurch forward, and people cry foul — like in design, or security, or technology deprecations, or things like Catalyst and SwiftUI, or Universal Purchase apps.

      I've heard multiple Apple people call it 'iOS Developer Edition' in jest, but I'm not convinced they're joking. On this path, someday there will be a point of convergence

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      • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

        RE: https://tapbots.social/@mark/116281166238683651

        I also quite like Liquid Glass (though implementing it at scale has not been fun).

        The people most against Liquid Glass are the people who are really afraid of macOS becoming more closely aligned with iOS and iPadOS, which is perhaps why they're overindexing on the little things and silly, fixable bugs instead of talking about the larger picture — the Mac is evolving to serve a different audience makeup (wait for the Neo effect), and some people are simply going to be left behind

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        @stroughtonsmith @mark I welcome visual alignment with macOS, iPadOS, and iOS but I find LG’s style just requires more cognitive load to use. I have to be careful and double check things because of the content-on-top-of-content choice.

        Leaving aside the bugs (which I would argue are egregious enough that it shouldn’t have shipped), I just find it more difficult to use. The iconography is less intuitive and it’s very inconsistent.

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          @stroughtonsmith @mark I welcome visual alignment with macOS, iPadOS, and iOS but I find LG’s style just requires more cognitive load to use. I have to be careful and double check things because of the content-on-top-of-content choice.

          Leaving aside the bugs (which I would argue are egregious enough that it shouldn’t have shipped), I just find it more difficult to use. The iconography is less intuitive and it’s very inconsistent.

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          @stroughtonsmith @mark

          What I can’t yet figure out is wether or not this years bug fixes and refinements will make it feel like less work to navigate the UI, which I’m hopeful (and desperate) for.

          I set up from scratch a new Mac for the first time in years, just a few weeks ago and ooof was that not a “just works” experience.

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          • joerodricks@mastodon.socialJ joerodricks@mastodon.social

            @stroughtonsmith @mark

            What I can’t yet figure out is wether or not this years bug fixes and refinements will make it feel like less work to navigate the UI, which I’m hopeful (and desperate) for.

            I set up from scratch a new Mac for the first time in years, just a few weeks ago and ooof was that not a “just works” experience.

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            @JoeRodricks @stroughtonsmith @mark It's gonna take longer than the move from aqua's lickable jelly beans to brushed metal in OS X, or to make buttons buttons and double skinny SF fonts actually visible in iOS 7. My current pet peeve: the verkakte way the new iPad OS stoplight buttons that the make-the-iPad-a-Mac diehards had an orgasm over STILL jump from left to right and back, and conflict with every damned legacy control at the top of unreconstructed pre-OS 26 apps, including Apple's own.

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            • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

              RE: https://tapbots.social/@mark/116281166238683651

              I also quite like Liquid Glass (though implementing it at scale has not been fun).

              The people most against Liquid Glass are the people who are really afraid of macOS becoming more closely aligned with iOS and iPadOS, which is perhaps why they're overindexing on the little things and silly, fixable bugs instead of talking about the larger picture — the Mac is evolving to serve a different audience makeup (wait for the Neo effect), and some people are simply going to be left behind

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              @stroughtonsmith I like Liquid Glass but hate the performance of Tahoe 💀. LG has no business being this heavy. I’m pretty sure this is just an optimization issue.

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              • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

                RE: https://tapbots.social/@mark/116281166238683651

                I also quite like Liquid Glass (though implementing it at scale has not been fun).

                The people most against Liquid Glass are the people who are really afraid of macOS becoming more closely aligned with iOS and iPadOS, which is perhaps why they're overindexing on the little things and silly, fixable bugs instead of talking about the larger picture — the Mac is evolving to serve a different audience makeup (wait for the Neo effect), and some people are simply going to be left behind

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                @stroughtonsmith the way i see it, Liquid Glass in iOS 26 is like the iOS 7 redesign, which eventually improved over the years.

                It’s hard to get *everything* right on the first release.

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