What some people call talent is really 3 things:
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@Lana You're equating "talent" with "ability". The two are not the same.
@realcainmosni I have taught for 30 years. I would be fascinated to hear what I have missed in that time.
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@realcainmosni I have taught for 30 years. I would be fascinated to hear what I have missed in that time.
@Lana Some people just have certain innate skills; they can simply do things without effort and it is an intrinsic part of who they are. That is talent. Which is not to say that their ability with that talent cannot be refined with practice and training. Other people, do not have the same facilities, but that does not mean they cannot be learned.
As the Collins dictionary says talent is the *natural* ability to do something *well* (their emphasis, not mine).
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@Lana Some people just have certain innate skills; they can simply do things without effort and it is an intrinsic part of who they are. That is talent. Which is not to say that their ability with that talent cannot be refined with practice and training. Other people, do not have the same facilities, but that does not mean they cannot be learned.
As the Collins dictionary says talent is the *natural* ability to do something *well* (their emphasis, not mine).
@realcainmosni so your source for this is the dictionary?
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@realcainmosni so your source for this is the dictionary?
@Lana That's generally where we get a common standardised meaning of words, yes.
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@Lana That's generally where we get a common standardised meaning of words, yes.
My understanding of the subject comes from:
- A master's degree in education
- A performance minor
- 44 years performing
- 31 years teaching
- I run a music school with a staff of 12Stop equating your ignorance with women's expertise.
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My understanding of the subject comes from:
- A master's degree in education
- A performance minor
- 44 years performing
- 31 years teaching
- I run a music school with a staff of 12Stop equating your ignorance with women's expertise.
@Lana @realcainmosni yeah wow, what a useless incorrect take. on the dude's part. (creds: masters in math education, been teaching math for 15+ years)
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@Lana @realcainmosni yeah wow, what a useless incorrect take. on the dude's part. (creds: masters in math education, been teaching math for 15+ years)
@Lana @realcainmosni and it's interesting to consider how someone could have the same thoughts but simply phrase it as a question, rather than speaking from an imagined position of authority.
"Isn't this mixing up talent with ability?"
"No, ability is basically synonymous with skill, but 'talent' is this hazy concept people have where they imagine skills magically appear without time and effort at all."see? approach it with a perspective of learning, then you don't have to get dunked on
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@Lana @realcainmosni and it's interesting to consider how someone could have the same thoughts but simply phrase it as a question, rather than speaking from an imagined position of authority.
"Isn't this mixing up talent with ability?"
"No, ability is basically synonymous with skill, but 'talent' is this hazy concept people have where they imagine skills magically appear without time and effort at all."see? approach it with a perspective of learning, then you don't have to get dunked on
@joshg @Lana @realcainmosni yeah but that doesn't let me feel smug, man. c'mon.
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@joshg @Lana @realcainmosni yeah but that doesn't let me feel smug, man. c'mon.
@dave_cochran @Lana @realcainmosni neither does getting dunked on HEEYYOOOOOH XD
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@dave_cochran @Lana @realcainmosni neither does getting dunked on HEEYYOOOOOH XD
@joshg @Lana @realcainmosni I have found that most dunk-on-able people are also fervent adherents to the Tao of the Ostrich
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