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  3. they loved it.im doing this format from now on for every tabletop i ever do.

they loved it.im doing this format from now on for every tabletop i ever do.

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  • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

    RE: https://mastodon.social/@Viss/116240791835934578

    they loved it.
    im doing this format from now on for every tabletop i ever do.

    telling them halfway through "oh no, this is real. go look at your logs. go look at your telemetry. its there"

    their eyes get to be the size of dinner plates.

    completely different story when you make them get out of the chair and go do stuff in meatspace.

    fucking awesome, 500/10. would tabletop again.

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    @Viss

    sounds outstanding! nice!

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    • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

      RE: https://mastodon.social/@Viss/116240791835934578

      they loved it.
      im doing this format from now on for every tabletop i ever do.

      telling them halfway through "oh no, this is real. go look at your logs. go look at your telemetry. its there"

      their eyes get to be the size of dinner plates.

      completely different story when you make them get out of the chair and go do stuff in meatspace.

      fucking awesome, 500/10. would tabletop again.

      sawaba@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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      @Viss so you pivoted from a tabletop to a surprise pentest?

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      • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

        RE: https://mastodon.social/@Viss/116240791835934578

        they loved it.
        im doing this format from now on for every tabletop i ever do.

        telling them halfway through "oh no, this is real. go look at your logs. go look at your telemetry. its there"

        their eyes get to be the size of dinner plates.

        completely different story when you make them get out of the chair and go do stuff in meatspace.

        fucking awesome, 500/10. would tabletop again.

        cr0w@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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        #5

        @Viss Real logs and actions are what get the analysts to click instead of just the incident managers / commanders.

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        • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

          @Viss Real logs and actions are what get the analysts to click instead of just the incident managers / commanders.

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          @Viss Maybe "click" isn't the right word but I think you know what I meant.

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          • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

            RE: https://mastodon.social/@Viss/116240791835934578

            they loved it.
            im doing this format from now on for every tabletop i ever do.

            telling them halfway through "oh no, this is real. go look at your logs. go look at your telemetry. its there"

            their eyes get to be the size of dinner plates.

            completely different story when you make them get out of the chair and go do stuff in meatspace.

            fucking awesome, 500/10. would tabletop again.

            nonya_bidniss@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
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            @Viss Did a lot of these in DOD. Sometimes in the role of my real job, sometimes playing other roles like SECDEF etc. Ultimately in the big exercises the injects often lead to worst case scenario and everybody dies in the end...

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            • nonya_bidniss@infosec.exchangeN nonya_bidniss@infosec.exchange

              @Viss Did a lot of these in DOD. Sometimes in the role of my real job, sometimes playing other roles like SECDEF etc. Ultimately in the big exercises the injects often lead to worst case scenario and everybody dies in the end...

              viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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              @Nonya_Bidniss heh, the stakes were considerably lower in this exercise - but one of yours sounds like it would be a fun one to do and/or play in! ๐Ÿ˜„

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              • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                @Viss Maybe "click" isn't the right word but I think you know what I meant.

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                @cR0w oh that was the consensus at the end. im nudging them for a testimonal i can stick on the site ๐Ÿ˜„

                but everyone in the room was like "yes, having it go to physical - having a real thing to go chase down? that was absolutely awesome"

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                • paul_ipv6@infosec.exchangeP paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange

                  @Viss

                  sounds outstanding! nice!

                  viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @paul_ipv6 i think it went really well, and im gonna lean into advertising these things more. they're super fun to do and everyone seems to love em

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                  • h2onolan@infosec.exchangeH h2onolan@infosec.exchange

                    @Viss thats awesome Dan. Well done.

                    viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @h2onolan thanks dude ๐Ÿ˜„

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                    • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                      @cR0w oh that was the consensus at the end. im nudging them for a testimonal i can stick on the site ๐Ÿ˜„

                      but everyone in the room was like "yes, having it go to physical - having a real thing to go chase down? that was absolutely awesome"

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                      @Viss I keep wanting to do that with TTXs but don't have the authority to make it happen.

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                      • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                        @paul_ipv6 i think it went really well, and im gonna lean into advertising these things more. they're super fun to do and everyone seems to love em

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                        @Viss

                        the most popular classes and tutorials i did have folks doing labs and poking on their own machines. things stick better learned that way.

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                        • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                          @Viss I keep wanting to do that with TTXs but don't have the authority to make it happen.

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                          @cR0w wanna rope me in? ๐Ÿ˜„

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                          • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                            @Viss Maybe "click" isn't the right word but I think you know what I meant.

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                            @cR0w @Viss Letโ€™s double click into that.

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                            • scottwilson@infosec.exchangeS scottwilson@infosec.exchange

                              @cR0w @Viss Letโ€™s double click into that.

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                              @cR0w @Viss Feel free to punch me in the crotch

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                              • scottwilson@infosec.exchangeS scottwilson@infosec.exchange

                                @cR0w @Viss Feel free to punch me in the crotch

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                                @scottwilson @cR0w

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                                • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                  @cR0w wanna rope me in? ๐Ÿ˜„

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                                  @Viss Ha! I can't get them to buy a single Thinkst Canary. I don't think that's going to happen.

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                                  • scottwilson@infosec.exchangeS scottwilson@infosec.exchange

                                    @cR0w @Viss Feel free to punch me in the crotch

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                                    @scottwilson @Viss I just might.

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                                    • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                      @Nonya_Bidniss heh, the stakes were considerably lower in this exercise - but one of yours sounds like it would be a fun one to do and/or play in! ๐Ÿ˜„

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                                      @Viss But you're right, people do get a kick out of the hands-on role play where they have to come up with actions and do them and see whether it works, or what the next surprise is.

                                      BTW, I ran across this one that's open registration right now and cyberspace operations is listed https://www.doctrine.af.mil/Portals/61/AFD35%20Wargame%20Invitation%20Flyer.pdf https://www.doctrine.af.mil/Home/AFD35/AFD35-Wargaming/

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                                      • nonya_bidniss@infosec.exchangeN nonya_bidniss@infosec.exchange

                                        @Viss But you're right, people do get a kick out of the hands-on role play where they have to come up with actions and do them and see whether it works, or what the next surprise is.

                                        BTW, I ran across this one that's open registration right now and cyberspace operations is listed https://www.doctrine.af.mil/Portals/61/AFD35%20Wargame%20Invitation%20Flyer.pdf https://www.doctrine.af.mil/Home/AFD35/AFD35-Wargaming/

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                                        @Nonya_Bidniss neat! i wager they wont think twice about me since i have zero .mil experience or .gov experience, but it would be cool to participate in one of those

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                                        • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                          RE: https://mastodon.social/@Viss/116240791835934578

                                          they loved it.
                                          im doing this format from now on for every tabletop i ever do.

                                          telling them halfway through "oh no, this is real. go look at your logs. go look at your telemetry. its there"

                                          their eyes get to be the size of dinner plates.

                                          completely different story when you make them get out of the chair and go do stuff in meatspace.

                                          fucking awesome, 500/10. would tabletop again.

                                          viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #22

                                          also having a bunch of dumb/bullshit domain names from back in the hayday of redteaming is super helpful. having a lolballs domain name for your badness to phone home to makes it fun to find

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