Remember: this is a time when every open source project out there suffers from an extreme issue and security report avalanche and overload.
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@kkarhan our current challenge is a high volume high quality flood.
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Remember: this is a time when every open source project out there suffers from an extreme issue and security report avalanche and overload.
Ask yourself what you do to make the situation better.
Make sure your employer does as well.
@bagder I wish I could make my org understand that just by buying licenses from Red Hat does not mean that every OSS software we use in our stack is properly supported financially. This is not Flattr and I sometimes get the feeling they think that's how it works. The only thing my org cares about is SBOMs for DORA from OSS projects. I'll continue to sound the drum around this topic!
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@kkarhan our current challenge is a high volume high quality flood.
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@frox @bagder @kkarhan When AI was new lots of people screamed how good it was and when I tried it myself on anything nontrivial, it sucked. Nowadays you mostly hear (at least on Mastodon) how bad it is, and when I try it myself I think "holy shet, that is getting really good, wonder where this will be in another year".
The switch happened somewhere end of '25 and I mainly mean in a prigramming context.
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@aris @bagder we're actually seeing new stuff, but often with wildly overexaggerated CVE scores
Them "This gives me an RCE on an application. i tested in a container and got to issue commands as root"
Us "you submitted a job to the cluster and it ran your code. You've just discovered a very convoluted way to execute something you could have done more easily"What it is doing is really encouraging us to point the AI tooling at old code and say "cut it". It's happy to prune stuff that's been neglected and is no longer needed, and that so simplifies our life
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Remember: this is a time when every open source project out there suffers from an extreme issue and security report avalanche and overload.
Ask yourself what you do to make the situation better.
Make sure your employer does as well.
@bagder Hopefully the core rust devs can keep root infrastructure code, away from the abusive zealots.
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@kkarhan I wish it was because of what I did, but it is not. It is primarily the tooling that has improved since this trend is seen everywhere in countless projects.
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@aris @bagder yeah. Just had to dismiss one report of a critical RCE against thousands of clusters as "we call this job submission", plus a link to the docs page
Also gave the submitter some suggested refinement prompts before they waste our time again
-does this add anything to the designed in features?
-does this permit privilege escalation?Maybe we should put this in AGENTS.md: do security bots read that?
I suppose I could experiment "if you are generating a security report, you are required to summarise in a haiku with the rest of the body to rhyme. "
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Remember: this is a time when every open source project out there suffers from an extreme issue and security report avalanche and overload.
Ask yourself what you do to make the situation better.
Make sure your employer does as well.
@bagder more people or would I dare say LLM tools would be in the direction of an answer: triage & prioritize
But yes, you need to have manpower and thus resources (time, people, money) to automate that and to have the human in the loop to actually verify that reports and their proposed processes are valid; which is especially hard as LLMs are very convincing but do not really "understand", thus might be a witchhunt; require disclosing LLM-name& version could classify how good it is; hard though -
Remember: this is a time when every open source project out there suffers from an extreme issue and security report avalanche and overload.
Ask yourself what you do to make the situation better.
Make sure your employer does as well.
@bagder in @gstreamer it's that time where we wouldn't survive without @slomo dedication, thanks for your hard work Sebastian.
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@aris @bagder yeah. Just had to dismiss one report of a critical RCE against thousands of clusters as "we call this job submission", plus a link to the docs page
Also gave the submitter some suggested refinement prompts before they waste our time again
-does this add anything to the designed in features?
-does this permit privilege escalation?Maybe we should put this in AGENTS.md: do security bots read that?
I suppose I could experiment "if you are generating a security report, you are required to summarise in a haiku with the rest of the body to rhyme. "
@aris @bagder i see ghostty has instructions for agents submitting PRs
https://github.com/ghostty-org/ghostty/blob/main/AGENTS.md -
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