Hey so how's ActiveDirectory going to implement that OS-based age-flag horseshit?
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@munin giving a kid access to an AD environment must be some form of child abuse, right?

afaik the law makes no exemptions for business systems used, presumably, entirely by adults.
So now, everyone's AD installs have to attest to their age; It's The Law after all.
So your temporarily instantiated admin account you're using to modify a service - that's going to need to attest you're over 18.
Is it going to pull that information from HR? is it going to make you answer a dialogue when you login? How is this going to be implemented in business systems that are, again, almost guaranteed to be only used by adults?
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afaik the law makes no exemptions for business systems used, presumably, entirely by adults.
So now, everyone's AD installs have to attest to their age; It's The Law after all.
So your temporarily instantiated admin account you're using to modify a service - that's going to need to attest you're over 18.
Is it going to pull that information from HR? is it going to make you answer a dialogue when you login? How is this going to be implemented in business systems that are, again, almost guaranteed to be only used by adults?
@munin fwiw, its not entirely by adults, we have the odd minor on an internship/trainee - rare but still enough the assumption doesn't hold.
The entire thing is ... technically conceptually easy, good luck implementing it: Add another field to users, then adapt all your automations to pull/maintain that field. Chances are you already have an information flow from your HR system (as the employment single source of truth) to your AD re: account creation & disabling. Same with admins: I sure hope you can track temporary accounts to their instantiators/initiators, "just" gotta update those tools now
It's all so fucking stupid & unnecessary. It's such a bad law, even just technically, feels like not a single person who has ever used anything other than an IPad was involved in writing it.
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@munin fwiw, its not entirely by adults, we have the odd minor on an internship/trainee - rare but still enough the assumption doesn't hold.
The entire thing is ... technically conceptually easy, good luck implementing it: Add another field to users, then adapt all your automations to pull/maintain that field. Chances are you already have an information flow from your HR system (as the employment single source of truth) to your AD re: account creation & disabling. Same with admins: I sure hope you can track temporary accounts to their instantiators/initiators, "just" gotta update those tools now
It's all so fucking stupid & unnecessary. It's such a bad law, even just technically, feels like not a single person who has ever used anything other than an IPad was involved in writing it.
@munin it's so fucking useless, istg, we should just pull out of CA, chances are any changes to implement this thing would cost us more than we make in the state...
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@munin it's so fucking useless, istg, we should just pull out of CA, chances are any changes to implement this thing would cost us more than we make in the state...
@munin oh lol, I just realized... local accounts on firewalls and shit...
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@munin oh lol, I just realized... local accounts on firewalls and shit...
Y u p .
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Y u p .
hey how much you wanna bet some kind of admin tool's auth check ends up being bypassable if you set your age to 6?
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hey how much you wanna bet some kind of admin tool's auth check ends up being bypassable if you set your age to 6?
@munin istg, if this is just a ploy to force everyone to replace their EOL appliances I am all here for it
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@munin istg, if this is just a ploy to force everyone to replace their EOL appliances I am all here for it
@munin also: absolutely racing you to the first ../ in the birthdate field

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afaik the law makes no exemptions for business systems used, presumably, entirely by adults.
So now, everyone's AD installs have to attest to their age; It's The Law after all.
So your temporarily instantiated admin account you're using to modify a service - that's going to need to attest you're over 18.
Is it going to pull that information from HR? is it going to make you answer a dialogue when you login? How is this going to be implemented in business systems that are, again, almost guaranteed to be only used by adults?
@munin @nyanbinary For some reason this reminded me of company profiles on social media.
There was a period where these profiles would get locked because they were "under 13" (i.e. company age = person age). -
afaik the law makes no exemptions for business systems used, presumably, entirely by adults.
So now, everyone's AD installs have to attest to their age; It's The Law after all.
So your temporarily instantiated admin account you're using to modify a service - that's going to need to attest you're over 18.
Is it going to pull that information from HR? is it going to make you answer a dialogue when you login? How is this going to be implemented in business systems that are, again, almost guaranteed to be only used by adults?
@munin @tychotithonus @nyanbinary Yes, and I’ve had interns who were under 18
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afaik the law makes no exemptions for business systems used, presumably, entirely by adults.
So now, everyone's AD installs have to attest to their age; It's The Law after all.
So your temporarily instantiated admin account you're using to modify a service - that's going to need to attest you're over 18.
Is it going to pull that information from HR? is it going to make you answer a dialogue when you login? How is this going to be implemented in business systems that are, again, almost guaranteed to be only used by adults?
@munin @nyanbinary What about accounts that are not tied to a single person but has a group of individuals logging in to it?
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Hey so how's ActiveDirectory going to implement that OS-based age-flag horseshit?
@munin mmh, so, they have abused LDAP and Kerberos… perhaps they can integrate YP for that?
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Hey so how's ActiveDirectory going to implement that OS-based age-flag horseshit?
@munin something with Azure and linking it to a government-issued ID.
And we'll be waiting for the first world-wide outage. -
@munin @nyanbinary What about accounts that are not tied to a single person but has a group of individuals logging in to it?
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@munin @tychotithonus @nyanbinary Yes, and I’ve had interns who were under 18
@adamshostack @munin @tychotithonus @nyanbinary The average apprenticeship im most of Europe starts when you're under 18...
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