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Is it obvious to everyone that whomever is handling @GrapheneOS social is mostly ranting a lot of FUD?

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    Is it obvious to everyone that whomever is handling @GrapheneOS social is mostly ranting a lot of FUD?

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      Is it obvious to everyone that whomever is handling @GrapheneOS social is mostly ranting a lot of FUD?

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      @troed @GrapheneOS

      Isn't that just the study of privacy nowadays?
      It seems there is always some new way to be tracked and they are getting harder and harder to avoid. Sometimes there is NOTHING you can do about it.
      Privacy is a scary study, if you let it get to you

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        @troed @GrapheneOS

        Isn't that just the study of privacy nowadays?
        It seems there is always some new way to be tracked and they are getting harder and harder to avoid. Sometimes there is NOTHING you can do about it.
        Privacy is a scary study, if you let it get to you

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        @Kow

        I mostly see "attacks" on what they perceive as competitors with wild conspiracy theories and outright misinformation.

        @GrapheneOS

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          @Kow

          I mostly see "attacks" on what they perceive as competitors with wild conspiracy theories and outright misinformation.

          @GrapheneOS

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          @troed @GrapheneOS
          I see, I haven't kept up with that side of things very well.

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            @Kow

            I mostly see "attacks" on what they perceive as competitors with wild conspiracy theories and outright misinformation.

            @GrapheneOS

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            @troed @Kow @GrapheneOS No, absolutely not. GrapheneOS is already fighting against Google API Integrity, which is already illegal and abusive. Google can do some good things, but the Play Integrity API is a bad thing.

            Google has a lot of resources to defend its monopoly, and now a cartel in the EU wants to do the same thing to impose its deceptive standards and manipulate the market. It is supported by companies that are untrustworthy and very hostile to GrapheneOS, such as Murena, Iodé, and Volla.

            Doing the same crap as an American company but with the "Europe" label on the front, it's still crap.

            The for-profit companies involved in this are not competitors of GrapheneOS, but they feel threatened by it.

            https://competition-policy.ec.europa.eu/antitrust-and-cartels_en

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              @troed @Kow @GrapheneOS No, absolutely not. GrapheneOS is already fighting against Google API Integrity, which is already illegal and abusive. Google can do some good things, but the Play Integrity API is a bad thing.

              Google has a lot of resources to defend its monopoly, and now a cartel in the EU wants to do the same thing to impose its deceptive standards and manipulate the market. It is supported by companies that are untrustworthy and very hostile to GrapheneOS, such as Murena, Iodé, and Volla.

              Doing the same crap as an American company but with the "Europe" label on the front, it's still crap.

              The for-profit companies involved in this are not competitors of GrapheneOS, but they feel threatened by it.

              https://competition-policy.ec.europa.eu/antitrust-and-cartels_en

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              #europa #security #competition #markets #android #law

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              @Xtreix

              "companies that are untrustworthy and very hostile to GrapheneOS, such as Murena, Iodé, and Volla."

              Yeah that's the paranoia and conspiracy theory stuff I hinted at.

              @Kow @GrapheneOS

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                @Xtreix

                "companies that are untrustworthy and very hostile to GrapheneOS, such as Murena, Iodé, and Volla."

                Yeah that's the paranoia and conspiracy theory stuff I hinted at.

                @Kow @GrapheneOS

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                @troed @Xtreix @GrapheneOS I have seen Volla being hostile towards them today. GrapheneOS even archived their posts about it. It also makes business sense for Volla to not like Graphene, as they are trying to create a power vacuum for themselves to fill it.

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                  @troed @Xtreix @GrapheneOS I have seen Volla being hostile towards them today. GrapheneOS even archived their posts about it. It also makes business sense for Volla to not like Graphene, as they are trying to create a power vacuum for themselves to fill it.

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                  @Kow

                  I only ever see the GrapheneOS account here being hostile towards mostly everyone.

                  Not everyone's out "to get you".

                  @Xtreix @GrapheneOS

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                    @Kow

                    I only ever see the GrapheneOS account here being hostile towards mostly everyone.

                    Not everyone's out "to get you".

                    @Xtreix @GrapheneOS

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                    @troed @Kow @GrapheneOS Unified Attestation is an illegal cartel, and GrapheneOS isn’t afraid to call it out. Creating an alternative that mimics an illegal project like Google’s Play Integrity API which stifles competition under the guise of being open-source is a bad idea, and we don’t want a centralized authority dictating what we should use.

                    And it’s easy to see that an illegal cartel of this kind can only be formed by untrustworthy companies that couldn’t care less about user security and privacy.

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