"At least you've got job security"
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"At least you've got job security"
I am fucking -done- with hearing this.
No, I don't.
My 'job security' is an illusion based on the presumption that, in the event that my skillset is needed - or even essential - that there will be someone who will pay for the privilege of accessing those skills.
Except that the fucking LLM jockeys have decided to claim that their product has my skillset.
Even tho it demonstrably does not, this still means that the people who would presumably hire me are uninterested in doing so, due to the existence of a machine that promises to do it for them.
And when they fail, and their business goes insolvent, they still will not be hiring me because -they no longer have a fucking business to hire me for-.
So no. My carefully built, decades-of-practice skills are -not- job security, despite LLMs being obviously, flagrantly, and blatantly incapable of replacing me.
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"At least you've got job security"
I am fucking -done- with hearing this.
No, I don't.
My 'job security' is an illusion based on the presumption that, in the event that my skillset is needed - or even essential - that there will be someone who will pay for the privilege of accessing those skills.
Except that the fucking LLM jockeys have decided to claim that their product has my skillset.
Even tho it demonstrably does not, this still means that the people who would presumably hire me are uninterested in doing so, due to the existence of a machine that promises to do it for them.
And when they fail, and their business goes insolvent, they still will not be hiring me because -they no longer have a fucking business to hire me for-.
So no. My carefully built, decades-of-practice skills are -not- job security, despite LLMs being obviously, flagrantly, and blatantly incapable of replacing me.
@munin Yup, I'm so secure right now.
SO SECURE
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"At least you've got job security"
I am fucking -done- with hearing this.
No, I don't.
My 'job security' is an illusion based on the presumption that, in the event that my skillset is needed - or even essential - that there will be someone who will pay for the privilege of accessing those skills.
Except that the fucking LLM jockeys have decided to claim that their product has my skillset.
Even tho it demonstrably does not, this still means that the people who would presumably hire me are uninterested in doing so, due to the existence of a machine that promises to do it for them.
And when they fail, and their business goes insolvent, they still will not be hiring me because -they no longer have a fucking business to hire me for-.
So no. My carefully built, decades-of-practice skills are -not- job security, despite LLMs being obviously, flagrantly, and blatantly incapable of replacing me.
Furthermore I have -zero- interest in cleaning up -this- mess once the LLMs have turbofucked everyone and ground their infrastructure into unusable rubbish.
Like, seriously, if you ripped out the engine of your car and replaced it with a vat of shit-flavored pudding, do you think that your mechanic would appreciate seeing that towed into her service bay? Especially if you were demanding that it be fixed without the appropriate budget and resources to hazmat-vaporize the fecal slurry and replace it with OEM spec parts?
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Furthermore I have -zero- interest in cleaning up -this- mess once the LLMs have turbofucked everyone and ground their infrastructure into unusable rubbish.
Like, seriously, if you ripped out the engine of your car and replaced it with a vat of shit-flavored pudding, do you think that your mechanic would appreciate seeing that towed into her service bay? Especially if you were demanding that it be fixed without the appropriate budget and resources to hazmat-vaporize the fecal slurry and replace it with OEM spec parts?
Not to mention - there's no fucking juniors out there being hired, so I have to do all the scut work that you normally use to -train- juniors, if I want it done right, because - surprise! - nobody's fucking hiring juniors on because they believe the fucking LLM jockeys' bullshit promises.
Anthropic and everyone like them can go fucking eat shit.
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"At least you've got job security"
I am fucking -done- with hearing this.
No, I don't.
My 'job security' is an illusion based on the presumption that, in the event that my skillset is needed - or even essential - that there will be someone who will pay for the privilege of accessing those skills.
Except that the fucking LLM jockeys have decided to claim that their product has my skillset.
Even tho it demonstrably does not, this still means that the people who would presumably hire me are uninterested in doing so, due to the existence of a machine that promises to do it for them.
And when they fail, and their business goes insolvent, they still will not be hiring me because -they no longer have a fucking business to hire me for-.
So no. My carefully built, decades-of-practice skills are -not- job security, despite LLMs being obviously, flagrantly, and blatantly incapable of replacing me.
@munin this is what I keep yelling at coworkers... even if we technical professionals can see past the facade, the decision makers with power over us cannot
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@munin this is what I keep yelling at coworkers... even if we technical professionals can see past the facade, the decision makers with power over us cannot
these assholes can't be trusted with money
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Not to mention - there's no fucking juniors out there being hired, so I have to do all the scut work that you normally use to -train- juniors, if I want it done right, because - surprise! - nobody's fucking hiring juniors on because they believe the fucking LLM jockeys' bullshit promises.
Anthropic and everyone like them can go fucking eat shit.
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"At least you've got job security"
I am fucking -done- with hearing this.
No, I don't.
My 'job security' is an illusion based on the presumption that, in the event that my skillset is needed - or even essential - that there will be someone who will pay for the privilege of accessing those skills.
Except that the fucking LLM jockeys have decided to claim that their product has my skillset.
Even tho it demonstrably does not, this still means that the people who would presumably hire me are uninterested in doing so, due to the existence of a machine that promises to do it for them.
And when they fail, and their business goes insolvent, they still will not be hiring me because -they no longer have a fucking business to hire me for-.
So no. My carefully built, decades-of-practice skills are -not- job security, despite LLMs being obviously, flagrantly, and blatantly incapable of replacing me.
@munin@infosec.exchange "Even tho it demonstrably does not" a sad part about this is that understanding the demonstration takes an amount of competence that most llm addicts refuse to have. -
@munin@infosec.exchange "Even tho it demonstrably does not" a sad part about this is that understanding the demonstration takes an amount of competence that most llm addicts refuse to have.
Yeah I wondered about that, too. Some of the people I know hold degrees + positions. And they enthusiastically feed their most private + work-sensitive kompromat to Δltman and kΔrp.
I generated an image a few years ago showing a net was trained on cake and pudding it had never seen both in one picture and when asked to generate one, it enthusiastically generated garbage.
It's a statistical model not sentient. These ppl can supposedly think critically?!
Edit: image for funsies
@munin
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Furthermore I have -zero- interest in cleaning up -this- mess once the LLMs have turbofucked everyone and ground their infrastructure into unusable rubbish.
Like, seriously, if you ripped out the engine of your car and replaced it with a vat of shit-flavored pudding, do you think that your mechanic would appreciate seeing that towed into her service bay? Especially if you were demanding that it be fixed without the appropriate budget and resources to hazmat-vaporize the fecal slurry and replace it with OEM spec parts?
@munin Absolutely this. If I lose my job in devops/infrastructure related work (either through LLM-induced ragequit or layoffs), there's no fucking way I'm returning to un-fuck the mess these assholes have made.
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Furthermore I have -zero- interest in cleaning up -this- mess once the LLMs have turbofucked everyone and ground their infrastructure into unusable rubbish.
Like, seriously, if you ripped out the engine of your car and replaced it with a vat of shit-flavored pudding, do you think that your mechanic would appreciate seeing that towed into her service bay? Especially if you were demanding that it be fixed without the appropriate budget and resources to hazmat-vaporize the fecal slurry and replace it with OEM spec parts?
@munin Also a nonzero probability they still insist we try to fix their car using even more pudding given the level of brain worms we're currently dealing with.
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"At least you've got job security"
I am fucking -done- with hearing this.
No, I don't.
My 'job security' is an illusion based on the presumption that, in the event that my skillset is needed - or even essential - that there will be someone who will pay for the privilege of accessing those skills.
Except that the fucking LLM jockeys have decided to claim that their product has my skillset.
Even tho it demonstrably does not, this still means that the people who would presumably hire me are uninterested in doing so, due to the existence of a machine that promises to do it for them.
And when they fail, and their business goes insolvent, they still will not be hiring me because -they no longer have a fucking business to hire me for-.
So no. My carefully built, decades-of-practice skills are -not- job security, despite LLMs being obviously, flagrantly, and blatantly incapable of replacing me.
@munin To his credit, the venerable @gradybooch has spoken out against the demagogue partly responsible for this.
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Not to mention - there's no fucking juniors out there being hired, so I have to do all the scut work that you normally use to -train- juniors, if I want it done right, because - surprise! - nobody's fucking hiring juniors on because they believe the fucking LLM jockeys' bullshit promises.
Anthropic and everyone like them can go fucking eat shit.
@munin I refer to the scut in my current project as "dogshit refactorings". And I "shitcan" technical debt. I will most likely resort to good old sed + find + xargs and clang-tidy for most of the "dogshit". pi-dev with <<insert name of chinese open weights model here>> would be a last resort.
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"At least you've got job security"
I am fucking -done- with hearing this.
No, I don't.
My 'job security' is an illusion based on the presumption that, in the event that my skillset is needed - or even essential - that there will be someone who will pay for the privilege of accessing those skills.
Except that the fucking LLM jockeys have decided to claim that their product has my skillset.
Even tho it demonstrably does not, this still means that the people who would presumably hire me are uninterested in doing so, due to the existence of a machine that promises to do it for them.
And when they fail, and their business goes insolvent, they still will not be hiring me because -they no longer have a fucking business to hire me for-.
So no. My carefully built, decades-of-practice skills are -not- job security, despite LLMs being obviously, flagrantly, and blatantly incapable of replacing me.
@munin So many people think that those who lost thier jobs will just get them back in ~2 years...supposedly when these companies realize the error of thier ways.
Ummm.... yeah.... about that....
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"At least you've got job security"
I am fucking -done- with hearing this.
No, I don't.
My 'job security' is an illusion based on the presumption that, in the event that my skillset is needed - or even essential - that there will be someone who will pay for the privilege of accessing those skills.
Except that the fucking LLM jockeys have decided to claim that their product has my skillset.
Even tho it demonstrably does not, this still means that the people who would presumably hire me are uninterested in doing so, due to the existence of a machine that promises to do it for them.
And when they fail, and their business goes insolvent, they still will not be hiring me because -they no longer have a fucking business to hire me for-.
So no. My carefully built, decades-of-practice skills are -not- job security, despite LLMs being obviously, flagrantly, and blatantly incapable of replacing me.
@munin On the upside, they are really not going to like the wooden shoes we subsequently toss into the mill works with all our free time and anger.
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Not to mention - there's no fucking juniors out there being hired, so I have to do all the scut work that you normally use to -train- juniors, if I want it done right, because - surprise! - nobody's fucking hiring juniors on because they believe the fucking LLM jockeys' bullshit promises.
Anthropic and everyone like them can go fucking eat shit.
@munin
I recently saw a post of a Twitter screenshot or something where someone said they're hiring juniors to do simple stuff because it's cheaper than tokens
No idea if it was real though, may be fake or joke
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