So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age.
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@JessTheUnstill
The eternal struggle of the OSS and privacy world.
@dlakelan @the_moth -
So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".
Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”
Discord roll out global age verification system, including an "age inference" model that runs in the background
I hate Discord with the intensity of a supernova falling into a black hole. I hate its ungainly profusion of tabs and v…
Rock Paper Shotgun (www.rockpapershotgun.com)
@JessTheUnstill@infosec.exchange It will use account age and usage patterns, NOT message content
But it's a good reminder that Discord is not end-to-end encrypted (therefore they can physically access your message content if desired) -
Easy enough to what though? Like I honestly don't know how people use Discord. Is it just like better in-game audio chats? Or is it like hanging out and talking? or text chat solving problems or like what?
@dlakelan @the_moth
I mean don't take me for a complete user story wishlist. But for some random use case vomitMy primary Discord is just about 20 old friends, mix of engineers at some of the largest tech cos in the world all the way to limited technical interest and expertise folks. We're really chatty with text and memes and gifs and pictures, good link previews, custom emojis, a couple dozen topic channels, we spin up new threads frequently, able to DM. I know some folks will watch videos together, but I don't know if they do the video in app or if they all just play it themselves and have an audio channel to talk.
A solid mobile app is a must. Most of us use our phones. "Just works", fast and responsive
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@dlakelan @the_moth
I mean don't take me for a complete user story wishlist. But for some random use case vomitMy primary Discord is just about 20 old friends, mix of engineers at some of the largest tech cos in the world all the way to limited technical interest and expertise folks. We're really chatty with text and memes and gifs and pictures, good link previews, custom emojis, a couple dozen topic channels, we spin up new threads frequently, able to DM. I know some folks will watch videos together, but I don't know if they do the video in app or if they all just play it themselves and have an audio channel to talk.
A solid mobile app is a must. Most of us use our phones. "Just works", fast and responsive
My experience with Signal is it works well for the text chatty emoji animated GIF meme posting links etc, and at least 10 or 20 people who are nontechnical got connected easily when there was the eaton fire and I offered a group chat as a way for the block to organize... (ie. if they're motivated to do it, nontechnical people have no actual problem)
But it's not a place you'd want to hang and audio shoot-the-shit I think.
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My experience with Signal is it works well for the text chatty emoji animated GIF meme posting links etc, and at least 10 or 20 people who are nontechnical got connected easily when there was the eaton fire and I offered a group chat as a way for the block to organize... (ie. if they're motivated to do it, nontechnical people have no actual problem)
But it's not a place you'd want to hang and audio shoot-the-shit I think.
to do separate topic threads, you'd have to create new groups for each topic... which is OK I guess.
So then the real question is how to do a group audio chat, and/or video chat in a way that feels "comfortable". Signal does do audio calls 1-1 and it does video calls for groups and you can turn off your camera. but it doesn't feel like it's quite what people want
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to do separate topic threads, you'd have to create new groups for each topic... which is OK I guess.
So then the real question is how to do a group audio chat, and/or video chat in a way that feels "comfortable". Signal does do audio calls 1-1 and it does video calls for groups and you can turn off your camera. but it doesn't feel like it's quite what people want
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Yeah, you can have a "main" chat for friends, and then send invite links to the main chat for anyone who wants to join the "xyz topic". So it's easy to get people to sort themselves into the chats, but yes, the chat reorders, it's hard to keep track of more than 4-5 active chats
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Yeah, you can have a "main" chat for friends, and then send invite links to the main chat for anyone who wants to join the "xyz topic". So it's easy to get people to sort themselves into the chats, but yes, the chat reorders, it's hard to keep track of more than 4-5 active chats
I have about 20 group or personal chats that are active. It can get a little annoying to keep track of which channel a certain conversation is in.
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I have about 20 group or personal chats that are active. It can get a little annoying to keep track of which channel a certain conversation is in.
So with Discord. Suppose you've got your tech company friends you're talking about... And then suppose you've got like an active "family reunion" with aunts and uncles and cousins and their kids and such... How do you keep those separated? (again remember I just never used Discord so I don't know how it works)
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So with Discord. Suppose you've got your tech company friends you're talking about... And then suppose you've got like an active "family reunion" with aunts and uncles and cousins and their kids and such... How do you keep those separated? (again remember I just never used Discord so I don't know how it works)
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@JessTheUnstill
but I mean what if you had a group of people you didnt want interacting with another group. Suppose youve got kids and theres a group of parents at the kids school that you want to interact with but you dont want them mixed with the work related group you just mentioned. how does that work?
@the_moth -
So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".
Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”
Discord roll out global age verification system, including an "age inference" model that runs in the background
I hate Discord with the intensity of a supernova falling into a black hole. I hate its ungainly profusion of tabs and v…
Rock Paper Shotgun (www.rockpapershotgun.com)
@JessTheUnstill On one level, ignoring biological age and restricting people who "act childish" from interacting with the adults, sounds like a hilarious concept.
It's not gonna work, and here it is done badly for the wrong reason by terrible people, but it could have been a nice thought.
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So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".
Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”
Discord roll out global age verification system, including an "age inference" model that runs in the background
I hate Discord with the intensity of a supernova falling into a black hole. I hate its ungainly profusion of tabs and v…
Rock Paper Shotgun (www.rockpapershotgun.com)
@JessTheUnstill bruh
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So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".
Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”
Discord roll out global age verification system, including an "age inference" model that runs in the background
I hate Discord with the intensity of a supernova falling into a black hole. I hate its ungainly profusion of tabs and v…
Rock Paper Shotgun (www.rockpapershotgun.com)
@JessTheUnstill repeat after me kids: "I remember when MTV had music videos"
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@JessTheUnstill
but I mean what if you had a group of people you didnt want interacting with another group. Suppose youve got kids and theres a group of parents at the kids school that you want to interact with but you dont want them mixed with the work related group you just mentioned. how does that work?
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@JessTheUnstill
It does kinda feel like Discord inhabits a usage niche between fully open things like Mastodon, and fully private things like Signal. its kinda invite only/controlled access plus interactive realtime audio videoI wonder if something like Bonfire plus some browser based realtime stuff would work to do that?
my kids and their friends use Jitsi for realtime gaming audio hangouts.
@the_moth -
@JessTheUnstill On one level, ignoring biological age and restricting people who "act childish" from interacting with the adults, sounds like a hilarious concept.
It's not gonna work, and here it is done badly for the wrong reason by terrible people, but it could have been a nice thought.
@helge Now if only it can quarantine people who spout Nazi bullshit until a mod can review and unblock them (false positives or people discussing the Nazi abuse they receive from others)
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