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OMG. Can you imagine publishing Machine Code for Beginners today??

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  • msh@coales.coM msh@coales.co

    @paco I had several of this series they are EXCELLENT every kid should learn how to assemble their code to hex it builds CHARACTER

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    @msh @paco "every kid" is a bit exaggerated, isn't it? But I agree to your point.

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    • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

      OMG. Can you imagine publishing Machine Code for Beginners today??

      Usborne 1980s Computer Books

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      @paco
      Nice. The closest to the machine programming I ever did was in assembler. Only a very little bit. Around 1987

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      • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

        OMG. Can you imagine publishing Machine Code for Beginners today??

        Usborne 1980s Computer Books

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        @paco

        RPOM (previously called Magpi) had a series on it, less than a year ago... They'll turn it into a book soon...

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        • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

          OMG. Can you imagine publishing Machine Code for Beginners today??

          Usborne 1980s Computer Books

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          #30

          @paco @mainframed767 we need more of this

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          • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

            OMG. Can you imagine publishing Machine Code for Beginners today??

            Usborne 1980s Computer Books

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            #31

            @paco need the same badly for #nvidia

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            • bitchboss@marcella.masto.hostB bitchboss@marcella.masto.host

              @paco

              Spent half my life on a 6502c but nobody wants to hear...

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              @bitchboss In THIS place? Everyone wants to hear about it!

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              • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

                OMG. Can you imagine publishing Machine Code for Beginners today??

                Usborne 1980s Computer Books

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                @paco when I got my Commodore PET 2001, the previous owner threw in a handwritten disassembly of the entire BASIC ROM. I learned a lot from that, and it kindled my interest in languages.

                Unfortunately the 6502 is one of those modern integrated devices, so no peeking under the hood there. But when the PDP8 at school came with full schematics, and the whole thing turned out to be constructed using TTL chips I already knew, that too was weeks of exploration, fun and learning.

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                • glasspusher@beige.partyG glasspusher@beige.party

                  @paco I had a similar book for the zx81 in the early 1980s!

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                  @glasspusher @paco I was just thinking that too, not sure if I had this book or another one like it for the zx81 and later the spectrum

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                  • bitchboss@marcella.masto.hostB bitchboss@marcella.masto.host

                    @paco

                    Spent half my life on a 6502c but nobody wants to hear...

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                    @bitchboss @paco

                    I was living in a Z80 at the time...

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                    • walrus@toot.walesW walrus@toot.wales

                      @bitchboss @paco

                      I was living in a Z80 at the time...

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                      @Walrus @bitchboss @paco
                      Shoot, got people living in a Z80 today.

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                      • walrus@toot.walesW walrus@toot.wales

                        @bitchboss @paco

                        I was living in a Z80 at the time...

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                        @Walrus @paco

                        That was my father's adventure, the Sinclair ZX80. He still has it. He played with it a lot. He taught me how to program. When I was 18, I switched to an Atari 800XL, which I used as my breaker box in the Air Force. The first thing I programmed was a modification to the tape OS using machine code (with a self-written assembler) to increase the baud rate and record/read file name headers on cassette tapes. I mean, 500 baud and not knowing what track is on the tape is bananas...

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                        • bitchboss@marcella.masto.hostB bitchboss@marcella.masto.host

                          @Walrus @paco

                          That was my father's adventure, the Sinclair ZX80. He still has it. He played with it a lot. He taught me how to program. When I was 18, I switched to an Atari 800XL, which I used as my breaker box in the Air Force. The first thing I programmed was a modification to the tape OS using machine code (with a self-written assembler) to increase the baud rate and record/read file name headers on cassette tapes. I mean, 500 baud and not knowing what track is on the tape is bananas...

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                          @bitchboss Awesome!
                          @Walrus

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                          • fritzadalis@infosec.exchangeF fritzadalis@infosec.exchange

                            @Walrus @bitchboss @paco
                            Shoot, got people living in a Z80 today.

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                            @FritzAdalis @Walrus @paco

                            Symplicity goes a long way...

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                            • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

                              OMG. Can you imagine publishing Machine Code for Beginners today??

                              Usborne 1980s Computer Books

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                              @paco

                              There are still one or two brave souls that program in Assembler ๐Ÿ™‚๐Ÿ‘

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                              • gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG gimulnautti@mastodon.green

                                @paco Could you believe we had no problems expecting humans could write machine code, just for fun? ๐Ÿค”

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                                @gimulnautti @paco It is fun.

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                                  @GreenYesScotland @paco This is how I learned Fortran.

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                                  • simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS simonzerafa@infosec.exchange

                                    @paco

                                    There are still one or two brave souls that program in Assembler ๐Ÿ™‚๐Ÿ‘

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                                    @simonzerafa My first, and perhaps most interesting, contribution to open source was assembly.

                                    To play DOOM head to head over a modem, you needed a TSR that ran in DOS and basically translated a modem connection onto a network connection. My uni had these super fast digital modems (115K when the standard was 56K). The DOOM folks open-sourced this little serial adapter thingie. I rewrote some of the main loop in assembly to improve efficiency and emailed the patch.

                                    Frankly, I was a 4th year student who had just taken his first assembly class. Itโ€™s entirely likely that I didnโ€™t improve it much at all.

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                                    • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

                                      OMG. Can you imagine publishing Machine Code for Beginners today??

                                      Usborne 1980s Computer Books

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                                      @paco Yes, but every page would start out โ€œAsk your AI Assistant toโ€ฆโ€

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                                      • gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG gimulnautti@mastodon.green

                                        @paco Could you believe we had no problems expecting humans could write machine code, just for fun? ๐Ÿค”

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                                        @gimulnautti

                                        some of us didโ€ฆ ๐Ÿ˜ฌ
                                        (and for small, simple architectures, I still find it kinda fun, but amd64 and ARM have gotten too big for me to find them fun/interesting)

                                        @paco

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                                        • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

                                          OMG. Can you imagine publishing Machine Code for Beginners today??

                                          Usborne 1980s Computer Books

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                                          @paco

                                          On the first computer I used with any regularity, I entered machine code via a hex keypad into its RAM--all 256 bytes of it.

                                          That was an RCA COSMAC ELF single-board computer.

                                          I was around 10 years old.

                                          Assemblers and assembly language are luxury in comparison.

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