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  • evehaswords@toot.catE evehaswords@toot.cat

    @LeoRJorge @theodric Offering irrelevant / off topic advice is pretty normal for humans where complicated or obscure questions are in play (source: reading lots of StackOverflow and forum responses written before the advent of stochastic parrots). That said, I do agree this is likely slop since the point about the passwords would have to be hallucinated.

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    @EveHasWords @theodric Yeah, maybe I was giving too much merit to the Microsoft employee who posted the reply...

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    • kr3st3n@infosec.exchangeK kr3st3n@infosec.exchange

      @theodric @phloggen Fantastic advice. I also noted that files larger than 2GB are exempt from scanning?!?

      Thanks. I’ll just add 2GB of randomness before my payload, then…

      Checkmark security (or compliance for some) at its best. 👍

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      @kr3st3n@infosec.exchange @theodric@social.linux.pizza @phloggen@expressional.social this is an actual technique that works against many commercial AV and EDR solutions

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        @kr3st3n@infosec.exchange @theodric@social.linux.pizza @phloggen@expressional.social this is an actual technique that works against many commercial AV and EDR solutions

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        @kr3st3n@infosec.exchange @theodric@social.linux.pizza @phloggen@expressional.social a related one is to generate a bunch of very large benign archives to flood the scan queue before it picks up your payload, giving it time to execute before the system flags it.

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        • theodric@social.linux.pizzaT theodric@social.linux.pizza

          Look at this fantastic piece of advice from Microsoft! https://learn.microsoft.com/en-au/answers/questions/2007466/are-costs-incurred-when-attempting-to-scan-passwor

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          @theodric

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          • hugh@mastodon.nzH hugh@mastodon.nz

            @theodric
            Does it suggest "password" or "ABC123"?

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            @hugh @theodric It's worse, if you were to follow the advice above it in the article, you would either include the password in the text of the email or use the filename as the password

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            • theodric@social.linux.pizzaT theodric@social.linux.pizza

              Look at this fantastic piece of advice from Microsoft! https://learn.microsoft.com/en-au/answers/questions/2007466/are-costs-incurred-when-attempting-to-scan-passwor

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              @theodric what the..what??

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              • icewolf@masto.brightfur.netI icewolf@masto.brightfur.net

                @theodric what the..what??

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                @IceWolf @theodric make sure to be as unsafe as possible so windows doesn't need to put in any work on... services that worked just fine before?

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                • theodric@social.linux.pizzaT theodric@social.linux.pizza

                  Look at this fantastic piece of advice from Microsoft! https://learn.microsoft.com/en-au/answers/questions/2007466/are-costs-incurred-when-attempting-to-scan-passwor

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                  @theodric In an unrelated statement, a Microsoft employee also recommended the use of generic locks that are easy to pick, lest you’ll never be locked out of your house again.

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                  • theodric@social.linux.pizzaT theodric@social.linux.pizza

                    Look at this fantastic piece of advice from Microsoft! https://learn.microsoft.com/en-au/answers/questions/2007466/are-costs-incurred-when-attempting-to-scan-passwor

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                    @theodric

                    Classic Microslop

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                    • theodric@social.linux.pizzaT theodric@social.linux.pizza

                      Look at this fantastic piece of advice from Microsoft! https://learn.microsoft.com/en-au/answers/questions/2007466/are-costs-incurred-when-attempting-to-scan-passwor

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                      @theodric I am concerned that Defender is trying to decrypt files at all...

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                      • theodric@social.linux.pizzaT theodric@social.linux.pizza

                        Look at this fantastic piece of advice from Microsoft! https://learn.microsoft.com/en-au/answers/questions/2007466/are-costs-incurred-when-attempting-to-scan-passwor

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                        @theodric relatedly, if everybody uses the same password the odds of someone guessing a password goes way down, right? Like, if there are 50 people in an organization and they each have their own password, an attacker is 50 times more likely to guess a password. That's just basic math.

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                        • theodric@social.linux.pizzaT theodric@social.linux.pizza

                          Look at this fantastic piece of advice from Microsoft! https://learn.microsoft.com/en-au/answers/questions/2007466/are-costs-incurred-when-attempting-to-scan-passwor

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                          @theodric ah, passwords as social convention

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                          • swelljoe@mas.toS swelljoe@mas.to

                            @theodric relatedly, if everybody uses the same password the odds of someone guessing a password goes way down, right? Like, if there are 50 people in an organization and they each have their own password, an attacker is 50 times more likely to guess a password. That's just basic math.

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                            @swelljoe your logic is impeccable.

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                            • theodric@social.linux.pizzaT theodric@social.linux.pizza

                              Look at this fantastic piece of advice from Microsoft! https://learn.microsoft.com/en-au/answers/questions/2007466/are-costs-incurred-when-attempting-to-scan-passwor

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                              @theodric@social.linux.pizza google is evil but they're good at what they do. Microsoft is just evil

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                              • theodric@social.linux.pizzaT theodric@social.linux.pizza

                                Look at this fantastic piece of advice from Microsoft! https://learn.microsoft.com/en-au/answers/questions/2007466/are-costs-incurred-when-attempting-to-scan-passwor

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                                @theodric I’m sure this response was perfectly appropriate…

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                                • theodric@social.linux.pizzaT theodric@social.linux.pizza

                                  Look at this fantastic piece of advice from Microsoft! https://learn.microsoft.com/en-au/answers/questions/2007466/are-costs-incurred-when-attempting-to-scan-passwor

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                                  @theodric you made me open up a Microsoft website 🤯

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