Yes, the #EU has a lot of regulations.
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Yes, the #EU has a lot of regulations.
But remember that thanks to those regulations you can use a single USB-C cable that can charge anything, rather than 10 different connectors and adapters as it was common until 10-15 years ago.
Remember that it's thanks to those regulations if you no longer have to pay eye watering roaming fees for calls and data when you travel to other EU countries, as it was common until 5-10 years ago.
Remember that it's thanks to those regulations if big tech has at least some constraints onto what it can do with your data and how much choice you have as a customer.
Remember that it's thanks to those regulations if you, as a EU citizen, can benefit from the services of any other embassy of any other EU country if stranded abroad.
Those who try to depict the EU as a bureaucratic hell worth dismantling are those who hate the impact that its laws have on their freedom of exploiting markets, exploiting customers or living out of rent money.
Or those who hate the combined economic and political power of a united Europe with w single market because it threatens their national interests, and they'd rather exert their leverage with a bunch of divided and weaker countries instead.
Europe isn't perfect and a lot can be improved. But those who call for its demise DO NOT talk in your interests.
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Yes, the #EU has a lot of regulations.
But remember that thanks to those regulations you can use a single USB-C cable that can charge anything, rather than 10 different connectors and adapters as it was common until 10-15 years ago.
Remember that it's thanks to those regulations if you no longer have to pay eye watering roaming fees for calls and data when you travel to other EU countries, as it was common until 5-10 years ago.
Remember that it's thanks to those regulations if big tech has at least some constraints onto what it can do with your data and how much choice you have as a customer.
Remember that it's thanks to those regulations if you, as a EU citizen, can benefit from the services of any other embassy of any other EU country if stranded abroad.
Those who try to depict the EU as a bureaucratic hell worth dismantling are those who hate the impact that its laws have on their freedom of exploiting markets, exploiting customers or living out of rent money.
Or those who hate the combined economic and political power of a united Europe with w single market because it threatens their national interests, and they'd rather exert their leverage with a bunch of divided and weaker countries instead.
Europe isn't perfect and a lot can be improved. But those who call for its demise DO NOT talk in your interests.
@fabio The way I was taught to look at regulations is that they are a careful record of past fuck ups.
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Yes, the #EU has a lot of regulations.
But remember that thanks to those regulations you can use a single USB-C cable that can charge anything, rather than 10 different connectors and adapters as it was common until 10-15 years ago.
Remember that it's thanks to those regulations if you no longer have to pay eye watering roaming fees for calls and data when you travel to other EU countries, as it was common until 5-10 years ago.
Remember that it's thanks to those regulations if big tech has at least some constraints onto what it can do with your data and how much choice you have as a customer.
Remember that it's thanks to those regulations if you, as a EU citizen, can benefit from the services of any other embassy of any other EU country if stranded abroad.
Those who try to depict the EU as a bureaucratic hell worth dismantling are those who hate the impact that its laws have on their freedom of exploiting markets, exploiting customers or living out of rent money.
Or those who hate the combined economic and political power of a united Europe with w single market because it threatens their national interests, and they'd rather exert their leverage with a bunch of divided and weaker countries instead.
Europe isn't perfect and a lot can be improved. But those who call for its demise DO NOT talk in your interests.
@MikeFromLFE @fabio The European union is incredibly strict. It's like dealing with a principal at your high school.
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@MikeFromLFE @fabio The European union is incredibly strict. It's like dealing with a principal at your high school.
@NicksWorld @fabio
I'm not sure that's a good analogy.
The EU is perhaps more like a benevolent uncle who keeps you safe and looks after you from a distance.Oh how I wish we were still European here in the UK!
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@NicksWorld @fabio
I'm not sure that's a good analogy.
The EU is perhaps more like a benevolent uncle who keeps you safe and looks after you from a distance.Oh how I wish we were still European here in the UK!
@MikeFromLFE @fabio All I see from the EU is this company got fined ,and that company got fined and taxes taxes taxes.
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Yes, the #EU has a lot of regulations.
But remember that thanks to those regulations you can use a single USB-C cable that can charge anything, rather than 10 different connectors and adapters as it was common until 10-15 years ago.
Remember that it's thanks to those regulations if you no longer have to pay eye watering roaming fees for calls and data when you travel to other EU countries, as it was common until 5-10 years ago.
Remember that it's thanks to those regulations if big tech has at least some constraints onto what it can do with your data and how much choice you have as a customer.
Remember that it's thanks to those regulations if you, as a EU citizen, can benefit from the services of any other embassy of any other EU country if stranded abroad.
Those who try to depict the EU as a bureaucratic hell worth dismantling are those who hate the impact that its laws have on their freedom of exploiting markets, exploiting customers or living out of rent money.
Or those who hate the combined economic and political power of a united Europe with w single market because it threatens their national interests, and they'd rather exert their leverage with a bunch of divided and weaker countries instead.
Europe isn't perfect and a lot can be improved. But those who call for its demise DO NOT talk in your interests.
@fabio The big issue I can see is that you let in a country like Hungary. Are there ways to manage a member state becoming authoritarian? I've read about article 7 but it doesn't seem to be effective.
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@MikeFromLFE @fabio The European union is incredibly strict. It's like dealing with a principal at your high school.
@NicksWorld @MikeFromLFE @fabio
As an American, I'm jealous of that willingness to reign in the worst behaviors society can create.
If you think the EU's regulations are excessivly strict, I can promise you the reality of an unregulated hellscape of amoral predatory rent seeking is far worse.
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@MikeFromLFE @fabio All I see from the EU is this company got fined ,and that company got fined and taxes taxes taxes.
@NicksWorld @MikeFromLFE @fabio You sound like a sociopath TBH. What do you do that's so important it deserves to be unregulated and untaxed?
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@NicksWorld @MikeFromLFE @fabio You sound like a sociopath TBH. What do you do that's so important it deserves to be unregulated and untaxed?
@OvertonDoors @MikeFromLFE @fabio I love how you can just call someone that without a license. I simply can't take you seriously, its actually kind of funny how people get triggered, its like pushing a button or pulling a lever.
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@OvertonDoors @MikeFromLFE @fabio I love how you can just call someone that without a license. I simply can't take you seriously, its actually kind of funny how people get triggered, its like pushing a button or pulling a lever.
@NicksWorld @MikeFromLFE @fabio
Just calling a spade a spade bubba, nobody triggered here save you perhaps. Anyways, you might take a moment and read the room. Your predatory bullshit has fallen upon deaf ears. Prostelitize deregulation among the ignorant, you won't find much sympathy on this platform.
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@NicksWorld @MikeFromLFE @fabio
Just calling a spade a spade bubba, nobody triggered here save you perhaps. Anyways, you might take a moment and read the room. Your predatory bullshit has fallen upon deaf ears. Prostelitize deregulation among the ignorant, you won't find much sympathy on this platform.
@OvertonDoors @MikeFromLFE @fabio This is a very liberal platform which in general is an echo chamber which is fine, I'm more of a socially liberal person, just not financially liberal for example, I'd be fine with completely legalizing the devil's lettuce, just make it like beer, 21 and older and no less.
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@OvertonDoors @MikeFromLFE @fabio This is a very liberal platform which in general is an echo chamber which is fine, I'm more of a socially liberal person, just not financially liberal for example, I'd be fine with completely legalizing the devil's lettuce, just make it like beer, 21 and older and no less.
@NicksWorld @MikeFromLFE @fabio
Sure, deregulation is great lol. There's no need to regulate businesses, they always make decisions that are to everyone's benifit. Just keep the unwashed masses bearing the consequences of unfettered corporatism disenfranchised from the political system. There you go problem solved.
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Yes, the #EU has a lot of regulations.
But remember that thanks to those regulations you can use a single USB-C cable that can charge anything, rather than 10 different connectors and adapters as it was common until 10-15 years ago.
Remember that it's thanks to those regulations if you no longer have to pay eye watering roaming fees for calls and data when you travel to other EU countries, as it was common until 5-10 years ago.
Remember that it's thanks to those regulations if big tech has at least some constraints onto what it can do with your data and how much choice you have as a customer.
Remember that it's thanks to those regulations if you, as a EU citizen, can benefit from the services of any other embassy of any other EU country if stranded abroad.
Those who try to depict the EU as a bureaucratic hell worth dismantling are those who hate the impact that its laws have on their freedom of exploiting markets, exploiting customers or living out of rent money.
Or those who hate the combined economic and political power of a united Europe with w single market because it threatens their national interests, and they'd rather exert their leverage with a bunch of divided and weaker countries instead.
Europe isn't perfect and a lot can be improved. But those who call for its demise DO NOT talk in your interests.
@fabio
> But remember that thanks to those regulations you can use a single USB-C cable that can charge anything
buddy there's like a dozen different USB-C cables with different capabilities and even devices with USB-C ports that can't be charged with normal USB-C cables+chargers unless it's a dumb USB-A on the other end which guarantees that it only uses 5v and no PD negotiation required
and then there's the devices where it actually matters if you actually plug the USB-C cable in "upside down" or not because not all devices have all the pins on both sides
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@fabio
> But remember that thanks to those regulations you can use a single USB-C cable that can charge anything
buddy there's like a dozen different USB-C cables with different capabilities and even devices with USB-C ports that can't be charged with normal USB-C cables+chargers unless it's a dumb USB-A on the other end which guarantees that it only uses 5v and no PD negotiation required
and then there's the devices where it actually matters if you actually plug the USB-C cable in "upside down" or not because not all devices have all the pins on both sides
don't build your enthusiasm up for the EU's over-regulation on a such a silly lie@feld@friedcheese.us yes, I'm aware of the different types of USB-C conventions out there. Also when it comes to different current/power requirements.
But I see it from the perspective of someone who believed it to be impossible 10 years ago to even be able to plug the same thing into a laptop, a phone or a headphone.
Even being able to plug the same thing into different laptops was unthinkable. I had a stash of "universal" power cords with at least 15 different barrel connectors.
And let's not talk of smaller devices using combinations of mini USB, micro USB, USB-A and other exotic variants (a problem that still affects HDMI btw).
Of course the USB-C standard is still fragmented and confusing, and a lot of work must still be done, but we're in a state that is light years ahead of where we were a decade ago.
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Yes, the #EU has a lot of regulations.
But remember that thanks to those regulations you can use a single USB-C cable that can charge anything, rather than 10 different connectors and adapters as it was common until 10-15 years ago.
Remember that it's thanks to those regulations if you no longer have to pay eye watering roaming fees for calls and data when you travel to other EU countries, as it was common until 5-10 years ago.
Remember that it's thanks to those regulations if big tech has at least some constraints onto what it can do with your data and how much choice you have as a customer.
Remember that it's thanks to those regulations if you, as a EU citizen, can benefit from the services of any other embassy of any other EU country if stranded abroad.
Those who try to depict the EU as a bureaucratic hell worth dismantling are those who hate the impact that its laws have on their freedom of exploiting markets, exploiting customers or living out of rent money.
Or those who hate the combined economic and political power of a united Europe with w single market because it threatens their national interests, and they'd rather exert their leverage with a bunch of divided and weaker countries instead.
Europe isn't perfect and a lot can be improved. But those who call for its demise DO NOT talk in your interests.
@fabio Regulation and bureaucracy are conflict management tools.
Their extent is determined by the complexity of the society.
Eliminating both without reducing underlying complexity will just bring you unmanaged conflicts and more decisions determined by relative strength.
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Yes, the #EU has a lot of regulations.
But remember that thanks to those regulations you can use a single USB-C cable that can charge anything, rather than 10 different connectors and adapters as it was common until 10-15 years ago.
Remember that it's thanks to those regulations if you no longer have to pay eye watering roaming fees for calls and data when you travel to other EU countries, as it was common until 5-10 years ago.
Remember that it's thanks to those regulations if big tech has at least some constraints onto what it can do with your data and how much choice you have as a customer.
Remember that it's thanks to those regulations if you, as a EU citizen, can benefit from the services of any other embassy of any other EU country if stranded abroad.
Those who try to depict the EU as a bureaucratic hell worth dismantling are those who hate the impact that its laws have on their freedom of exploiting markets, exploiting customers or living out of rent money.
Or those who hate the combined economic and political power of a united Europe with w single market because it threatens their national interests, and they'd rather exert their leverage with a bunch of divided and weaker countries instead.
Europe isn't perfect and a lot can be improved. But those who call for its demise DO NOT talk in your interests.
@fabio
Except USB-C has a bunch of different ways of transmitting power, and once you remember that you need to multiply the number of combinations for the charger, the phone and even the cable(!) you have more more than 10-15 different combinations.They could just have standardized "electricity over copper", and had the same results with the old connectors. Except the you'd be able to visually tell the difference.
(Weird how with mains power, Europe has standardized 230 volts 3 phase power, but not the connector, but with USB-C, they have standardized the connector but not the voltage).
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@fabio
Except USB-C has a bunch of different ways of transmitting power, and once you remember that you need to multiply the number of combinations for the charger, the phone and even the cable(!) you have more more than 10-15 different combinations.They could just have standardized "electricity over copper", and had the same results with the old connectors. Except the you'd be able to visually tell the difference.
(Weird how with mains power, Europe has standardized 230 volts 3 phase power, but not the connector, but with USB-C, they have standardized the connector but not the voltage).
@leeloo@c.im you can't really standardize voltage/current specifications for a connector that can power everything from earbuds chargers to beefy laptops, and everything in between.
And of course I know how frustrating it is to plug a low-power USB-C supply to a Macbook just to realize that it doesn't work, or plug the USB-C cable of a Macbook charger to a small gadget just to realize that it starts overheating after a few seconds.
But I compare that to what we use to have before (a proliferation of barrel connectors of different shapes and sizes that made it impossible for me to charge two laptops from the same manufacturer produced just a couple of years apart by using the same charger, Thunberbolt in a few variants, 3-4 USB connectors types, game consoles coming up with their own proprietary connector shapes, phones that couldn't exchange chargers...), and I think that this regulation has already gone a long way fixing the mess of entangled wires.
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