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Normalize flipping off Flock cams.

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  • mindpersephone@spookygirl.booM mindpersephone@spookygirl.boo

    @SymTrkl @alice Wonder if you could give someone a headache by making the IR leds strobe at the right frequency. hopefully wouldn't effect anyone looking at the hat normally, but anyone watching through a camera would see flashing lights.

    Guess you'd probably have to be careful not to flash them too fast or at the wrong frequencies and cause seizures

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    @mindpersephone I feel like rolling shutter artifacts would prevent it above a certain frequency threshold, but on the other hand it's gonna be headache enough if you can get the exposure to blow out.
    @alice

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    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

      Normalize flipping off Flock cams.

      #FuckFlock #FuckICE

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      @alice We need to find a qr code that encodes an exploit that takes the camera off line to wear on t-shirts.

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        @CorvidCrone @Shdwdrgn @SymTrkl @alice

        last time I looked, if you wanted to destroy cameras (flock, ring, et al) you need at least a class 3 laser, hypothetically

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        • shdwdrgn@tech.lgbtS shdwdrgn@tech.lgbt

          @SymTrkl @alice Hmm now I'm wondering what their camera sensitivity is to IR? Like, could I pack some IR LEDs around my license plate?

          "Oh sorry, google told me it helps scare the elk off the road!"

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          @Shdwdrgn modern ALPRs use a lot of anti-fuckery technology.

          @SymTrkl

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          • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

            Normalize flipping off Flock cams.

            #FuckFlock #FuckICE

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            @alice I feel like I saw Benn Jordan detailing several things which one should never do to those cameras.

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            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

              @Shdwdrgn modern ALPRs use a lot of anti-fuckery technology.

              @SymTrkl

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              @alice @SymTrkl Heh I'm not really surprised.

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              • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                Normalize flipping off Flock cams.

                #FuckFlock #FuckICE

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                @alice

                I recently lived where Flock cameras that were put on a map were met by a specially modified off road truck like target practice. The county eventually had every Flock camera contracted to be removed.

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                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                  Normalize flipping off Flock cams.

                  #FuckFlock #FuckICE

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                  @alice the only flipping is to flip the camera over so it stops invading public spaces. Also make sure to wear a proper mask

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                  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                    Normalize flipping off Flock cams.

                    #FuckFlock #FuckICE

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                    #23

                    @alice I can also wave a Mexican flag in from of them to throw them off.

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                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                      Normalize flipping off Flock cams.

                      #FuckFlock #FuckICE

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                      #24

                      @alice yes, off the mounts, onto the cement

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                      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                        Normalize flipping off Flock cams.

                        #FuckFlock #FuckICE

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                        #25

                        @alice Someone in my neighborhood seems to have flipped one right off of its pole. Seem to have repurposed its solar panel, too. Very conscientious of them. 😏

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                        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                          Why? Because someone is reviewing that footage to look for immigrants, and I want them to hate their job.

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                          @alice Oh, I hadn't thought of that. They're on my college campus and public safety watches the feral cats on them (and got one of 'em a home...)

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                          • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                            Why? Because someone is reviewing that footage to look for immigrants, and I want them to hate their job.

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                            @alice

                            the yolov3tiny models the falcon cameras uses detect "birds." But it's probably just detecting "person" and uploading those frames.

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                            • chuckmcmanis@chaos.socialC chuckmcmanis@chaos.social

                              @alice We need to find a qr code that encodes an exploit that takes the camera off line to wear on t-shirts.

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                              @ChuckMcManis @alice

                              Sadly, the cameras don't do any actual OCR or object decoding in real time. The YOLO models just crop objects and upload to AWS for "processing."

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                              • kajer@infosec.exchangeK kajer@infosec.exchange

                                @ChuckMcManis @alice

                                Sadly, the cameras don't do any actual OCR or object decoding in real time. The YOLO models just crop objects and upload to AWS for "processing."

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                                @kajer @alice Okay, but what if we had a QR code that made AWS "processing" really really expensive. I'm thinking an HTTPS page with a six billion link referrer link chain.

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                                • chuckmcmanis@chaos.socialC chuckmcmanis@chaos.social

                                  @kajer @alice Okay, but what if we had a QR code that made AWS "processing" really really expensive. I'm thinking an HTTPS page with a six billion link referrer link chain.

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                                  @ChuckMcManis @alice

                                  Once testing renders results, then maybe it's an attack path

                                  Mike Sheward (@SecureOwl@infosec.exchange)

                                  Update on my QR porch ornament experiment. There have now been 4 Amazon proof of delivery images containing the code. The first two, reliably hit the canary token within 20-40 minutes of the delivery, from a non-phone QR code. Definitely some sort of automated process. The third one, did hit the QR, but it was because the delivery person took it upon themselves to scan the QR code with their phone to see what it did - user agent confirmed that. There were no programatic hits like the first two. Fourth one, in the picture, but no hit registered. UPS/FedEx/USPS - not even as much as a flicker of a GET request to my canary. Bonus points, while driving I exposed my QR code to a couple of Flock cameras, but alas they didn't do anything. Next step will be a new QR code, one that points to a different domain, because the next thing to check is - did they start blocking the requests to Canarytoken dot org from whatever process was ingesting the images - because that is what it seems like.

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                                  • symtrkl@anarres.familyS symtrkl@anarres.family

                                    @alice Googling how many ultrabright IR LEDs can I fit in various pieces of headware, because making them hate their job is easier when I make that job as hard as humanly possible.

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                                    @SymTrkl @alice

                                    Often thought about building a license plate frame loaded with ir LEDs to mess with ALPRs

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                                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                      Normalize flipping off Flock cams.

                                      #FuckFlock #FuckICE

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                                      @alice Next step: laser right in the Flock's lens!

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                                      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                        Normalize flipping off Flock cams.

                                        #FuckFlock #FuckICE

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                                        @alice Flip Flock

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                                        • mindpersephone@spookygirl.booM mindpersephone@spookygirl.boo

                                          @SymTrkl @alice Wonder if you could give someone a headache by making the IR leds strobe at the right frequency. hopefully wouldn't effect anyone looking at the hat normally, but anyone watching through a camera would see flashing lights.

                                          Guess you'd probably have to be careful not to flash them too fast or at the wrong frequencies and cause seizures

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                                          @mindpersephone
                                          Honestly? You need a bit of a capacitor to stabilize the power supply but strobing the leds means they are not constantly using power but stay off for some time. You can easily double your battery time that way!
                                          @alice @SymTrkl

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