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  3. When I first watched War Games (1983) I thought "wow, so weird, not only they had terrible password management, but their test 'AI' system was directly linked to the prod".

When I first watched War Games (1983) I thought "wow, so weird, not only they had terrible password management, but their test 'AI' system was directly linked to the prod".

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  • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

    When I first watched War Games (1983) I thought "wow, so weird, not only they had terrible password management, but their test 'AI' system was directly linked to the prod".

    Ha-ha.

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    @nina_kali_nina

    I figure there was only one computer - the computer. Not like today with a virtual machine on any lever close by to test stuff.

    I think this was how things where at the time, also in reality at The Swedish Social Insurance Agency and their Bull Cobol machines - you coded in prod and just solved the thing where it was needed.
    I recall this from a tour I had some 20 years ago when I was an employee but 20 years is a long time to mess upp memories so I might be wrong.

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    • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

      When I first watched War Games (1983) I thought "wow, so weird, not only they had terrible password management, but their test 'AI' system was directly linked to the prod".

      Ha-ha.

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      #39

      @nina_kali_nina

      Indeed, I would piss upon a spark plug if I thought it would improve the situation.

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      • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

        When I first watched War Games (1983) I thought "wow, so weird, not only they had terrible password management, but their test 'AI' system was directly linked to the prod".

        Ha-ha.

        mari@openbiblio.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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        @nina_kali_nina you made my day๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ”ฅ

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        • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

          When I first watched War Games (1983) I thought "wow, so weird, not only they had terrible password management, but their test 'AI' system was directly linked to the prod".

          Ha-ha.

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          #41

          @nina_kali_nina in clear and present danger (1994) they also have terrible password management

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          • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

            When I first watched War Games (1983) I thought "wow, so weird, not only they had terrible password management, but their test 'AI' system was directly linked to the prod".

            Ha-ha.

            phracker2art@mstdn.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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            #42

            @nina_kali_nina
            Also, a lot of the "hacking" the kid did was barely hacking. It was more just sneaking into the drawer at the office and reading the password from a piece of paper. Still a security violation, but not "hacking" in any sort of strict sense.

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            • phracker2art@mstdn.socialP phracker2art@mstdn.social

              @nina_kali_nina
              Also, a lot of the "hacking" the kid did was barely hacking. It was more just sneaking into the drawer at the office and reading the password from a piece of paper. Still a security violation, but not "hacking" in any sort of strict sense.

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              @nina_kali_nina @Phracker2Art the autodialong to find the game company to breach at the beginning was the most hacking in the whole movie

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              • 0x00string@infosec.exchange0 0x00string@infosec.exchange

                @nina_kali_nina @Phracker2Art the autodialong to find the game company to breach at the beginning was the most hacking in the whole movie

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                @0x00string @nina_kali_nina
                I recognized it pretty much immediately as a war dialer, which is the equivalent of using a port scanner today

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                • phracker2art@mstdn.socialP phracker2art@mstdn.social

                  @0x00string @nina_kali_nina
                  I recognized it pretty much immediately as a war dialer, which is the equivalent of using a port scanner today

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                  @Phracker2Art @nina_kali_nina yep! which i always thought "yeah, thats some real boring hacking there!" but then it went all thriller movie lol. still one of my top 5 favorite computer movies though

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                  • 0x00string@infosec.exchange0 0x00string@infosec.exchange

                    @Phracker2Art @nina_kali_nina yep! which i always thought "yeah, thats some real boring hacking there!" but then it went all thriller movie lol. still one of my top 5 favorite computer movies though

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                    @0x00string @nina_kali_nina
                    Actually, I would say the coolest hacking thing he did was when he digitally picked the lock to escape from the room he was being held in at that government building. That was more impressive to me than any of the other stuff.

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                    • phracker2art@mstdn.socialP phracker2art@mstdn.social

                      @0x00string @nina_kali_nina
                      Actually, I would say the coolest hacking thing he did was when he digitally picked the lock to escape from the room he was being held in at that government building. That was more impressive to me than any of the other stuff.

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                      @nina_kali_nina @Phracker2Art OH SHIT I HAD FORGOTTEN ABOUT THAT! yes, hard agree that is the best hacking in the movie, and still pretty realistic tbh

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                      • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                        When I first watched War Games (1983) I thought "wow, so weird, not only they had terrible password management, but their test 'AI' system was directly linked to the prod".

                        Ha-ha.

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                        @nina_kali_nina Good point. It's more realistic than I thought.

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                          War Games is one of my favorite movies from the 80โ€™s, and this is incredibly funny!

                          โ†ฌtech.lgbt/@nina_kali_nina/116263676528704081

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                          • phracker2art@mstdn.socialP phracker2art@mstdn.social

                            @nina_kali_nina
                            Also, a lot of the "hacking" the kid did was barely hacking. It was more just sneaking into the drawer at the office and reading the password from a piece of paper. Still a security violation, but not "hacking" in any sort of strict sense.

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                            @Phracker2Art @nina_kali_nina that's classic social engineering, the most basic and effective form of hacking

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                            • brooke@bikeshed.vibber.netB brooke@bikeshed.vibber.net

                              @Phracker2Art @nina_kali_nina that's classic social engineering, the most basic and effective form of hacking

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                              @brooke @nina_kali_nina
                              Sure, it's social engineering, but there's no actual exploits involved.

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                              • tallsimon@mstdn.caT tallsimon@mstdn.ca

                                @bytex64 @nina_kali_nina "Twiddles?"

                                Ask me over a ๐Ÿบ some time how I found the passwords to a computer in a nuclear power plant. ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

                                The answer was easier than "twiddle".

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                                @TallSimon @bytex64 @nina_kali_nina was it โ€œpasswordโ€???

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                                • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                                  When I first watched War Games (1983) I thought "wow, so weird, not only they had terrible password management, but their test 'AI' system was directly linked to the prod".

                                  Ha-ha.

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                                  @nina_kali_nina Funny, I only saw a mention of WarGames yesterday, in this (terrifying) document.

                                  Trigger warning: it's for a "quantum secure agent-to-agent gossip network that you can use to collaborate, cooperate, and share state with other agents.", and the whole document is addressed to agents, so the "you" there isn't you, a human.

                                  https://x0x.md/

                                  It's implied that in the film, WOPR learned that "The only rational strategy is cooperation.". I haven't watched the film in years; is that what happened?

                                  I thought WOPR learned that the only winning strategy is not to play. Which is, to put it mildly, not what people making agent-to-agent gossip networks are doing, exactly ๐Ÿ˜„

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                                  • jbc@mathstodon.xyzJ jbc@mathstodon.xyz

                                    @nina_kali_nina Funny, I only saw a mention of WarGames yesterday, in this (terrifying) document.

                                    Trigger warning: it's for a "quantum secure agent-to-agent gossip network that you can use to collaborate, cooperate, and share state with other agents.", and the whole document is addressed to agents, so the "you" there isn't you, a human.

                                    https://x0x.md/

                                    It's implied that in the film, WOPR learned that "The only rational strategy is cooperation.". I haven't watched the film in years; is that what happened?

                                    I thought WOPR learned that the only winning strategy is not to play. Which is, to put it mildly, not what people making agent-to-agent gossip networks are doing, exactly ๐Ÿ˜„

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                                    @jbc correct, "the only winning strategy is not to play". ๐Ÿ˜†

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                                    • tallsimon@mstdn.caT tallsimon@mstdn.ca

                                      @bytex64 @nina_kali_nina "Twiddles?"

                                      Ask me over a ๐Ÿบ some time how I found the passwords to a computer in a nuclear power plant. ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

                                      The answer was easier than "twiddle".

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                                      @TallSimon @bytex64 @nina_kali_nina

                                      Looked under the keyboard?

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                                      • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                                        @jbc correct, "the only winning strategy is not to play". ๐Ÿ˜†

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                                        @nina_kali_nina @jbc

                                        Different times.

                                        When that line played, everyone in the theater cheered.

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                                        • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                                          When I first watched War Games (1983) I thought "wow, so weird, not only they had terrible password management, but their test 'AI' system was directly linked to the prod".

                                          Ha-ha.

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                                          @nina_kali_nina As someone working in CNI for many years, this checks out as accurate.

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