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  • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

    We’ve pushed young people completely out of our public physical spaces and now they’re getting pushed out of our digital spaces as well. Where are they supposed to go?

    adamvs1@mastodon.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
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    @danirabbit Into the streets, and looking for change. The ‘powerful’ never learn.

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    • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

      I started elementary as a high school student. When we were building the first versions of our desktop environment, one of our core developers was in high school and his parents accompanied him to the Ubuntu Developer Summit. How many things we have today wouldn’t exist if young people weren’t allowed to participate? The cost of not creating spaces that we can safely share with young people is too high

      finalgirl@blackqueer.lifeF This user is from outside of this forum
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      @danirabbit “I stared a company that created an operating system while still in high school” may be one of the coolest and simultaneously hottest things I’ve ever read. You’re like Kim Possible.

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      • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

        We’ve pushed young people completely out of our public physical spaces and now they’re getting pushed out of our digital spaces as well. Where are they supposed to go?

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        @danirabbit To the mines.
        That's the plan, isn't it? Work the mines or get pregnant and stay home.

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        • mimesatwork@wandering.shopM mimesatwork@wandering.shop

          @danirabbit To the mines.
          That's the plan, isn't it? Work the mines or get pregnant and stay home.

          alienghic@timeloop.cafeA This user is from outside of this forum
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          @Mimesatwork @danirabbit

          Also don't learn about racism, sexism, global warming or activism.

          I think a big reason for the push to erase kids is Gretta Thunbergs activism because it threatened the oil industry

          "The most common theme in the banned non-fiction books was activism and social movements."
          https://www.theguardian.com/books/2026/may/07/banned-non-fiction-books-doubles

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          • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

            We’ve pushed young people completely out of our public physical spaces and now they’re getting pushed out of our digital spaces as well. Where are they supposed to go?

            cliffsesport@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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            @danirabbit Darkweb? I'm guessing that age BS will push more in that direction.

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            • cliffsesport@mastodon.socialC cliffsesport@mastodon.social

              @danirabbit Darkweb? I'm guessing that age BS will push more in that direction.

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              @CliffsEsport @danirabbit Honestly, that's one of the main possible outcomes I'm seeing. There are plenty of "normal" hidden websites.

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              • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                We’ve pushed young people completely out of our public physical spaces and now they’re getting pushed out of our digital spaces as well. Where are they supposed to go?

                nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                @danirabbit
                We don't need to go anywhere. We just have to fight for what belongs to us otherwise we shall not run enough to find somewhere safe for us.

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                • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                  We’ve pushed young people completely out of our public physical spaces and now they’re getting pushed out of our digital spaces as well. Where are they supposed to go?

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                  @danirabbit there is a story of cultural theory I've had in my head since my early 20s, which I've been slowly evolving. We keep going people siloed into artificial groups of all one age bracket until they're 18, and often until their early 20s if they attend higher education. It's unnatural, and it's an artificial situation that they will never encounter again the rest of their lives.

                  As a result, because they are shut off away from their parent's culture they develop their own. Which is why every generation has their own music, fashion, and even language. It also makes parent's feel alienated from their kids and vice versa. Then these young people are thrust out into the real world, and they never experience such an environment again.

                  I had the misfortune of being labeled "gifted" while not getting the actual diagnosis that really applies (autistic). Instead of letting "gifted" kids move at their own accelerated pace we generally keep them in the same group with their "peers" because if we put them in with older kids they would feel alienated. That's the theory. Fuck, I was already alienated. Then I had to wait around and try to occupy my brain while the other kids caught up. That just made me feel even less party of the group. If the internet had been a thing back then it might have really helped my mental health.

                  I'm rambling a bit. I could do the subject s lot more justice long-form, and I've been thinking about doing just that when time permits. Suffice to say, I think a lot of society's ills stem from generational divide. Locking kids away from online life will absolutely make that worse.

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                  • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                    We’ve pushed young people completely out of our public physical spaces and now they’re getting pushed out of our digital spaces as well. Where are they supposed to go?

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                    @danirabbit
                    There won’t be anywhere left to go.

                    This, the social media bans that is, carry the same sickening energy as when restaurants employ ”teenage repulsers” or whatever you can call them. Those devices that play high frequency sounds that only children and teenagers can hear to ward them off public spaces.

                    Then youngsters started going online to express themselves and to build their own opinions. And now, nope, let’s set up age restrictions to *protect* the children. This is, in my opinion, like putting a bird in a cage to *protect* it, while it just wanted to fly free.

                    I might be preaching to the choir but I’m expressing my right to free speech. It seems like it’s going to be increasingly important for us to do that, if I’ve read the signs right. I hope that I have not.

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                    • jeang3nie@social.linux.pizzaJ jeang3nie@social.linux.pizza

                      @danirabbit there is a story of cultural theory I've had in my head since my early 20s, which I've been slowly evolving. We keep going people siloed into artificial groups of all one age bracket until they're 18, and often until their early 20s if they attend higher education. It's unnatural, and it's an artificial situation that they will never encounter again the rest of their lives.

                      As a result, because they are shut off away from their parent's culture they develop their own. Which is why every generation has their own music, fashion, and even language. It also makes parent's feel alienated from their kids and vice versa. Then these young people are thrust out into the real world, and they never experience such an environment again.

                      I had the misfortune of being labeled "gifted" while not getting the actual diagnosis that really applies (autistic). Instead of letting "gifted" kids move at their own accelerated pace we generally keep them in the same group with their "peers" because if we put them in with older kids they would feel alienated. That's the theory. Fuck, I was already alienated. Then I had to wait around and try to occupy my brain while the other kids caught up. That just made me feel even less party of the group. If the internet had been a thing back then it might have really helped my mental health.

                      I'm rambling a bit. I could do the subject s lot more justice long-form, and I've been thinking about doing just that when time permits. Suffice to say, I think a lot of society's ills stem from generational divide. Locking kids away from online life will absolutely make that worse.

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                      @jeang3nie @danirabbit
                      Eyy, we we’re rambling simultaneously! 😄

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                      • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                        I started elementary as a high school student. When we were building the first versions of our desktop environment, one of our core developers was in high school and his parents accompanied him to the Ubuntu Developer Summit. How many things we have today wouldn’t exist if young people weren’t allowed to participate? The cost of not creating spaces that we can safely share with young people is too high

                        lizette603_23@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @danirabbit agree agree agree

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                        • finalgirl@blackqueer.lifeF finalgirl@blackqueer.life

                          @danirabbit “I stared a company that created an operating system while still in high school” may be one of the coolest and simultaneously hottest things I’ve ever read. You’re like Kim Possible.

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                          @FinalGirl haha okay to be fair we bootstrapped for several years. I didn’t get to work on it full time until I was like 25

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                          • alienghic@timeloop.cafeA alienghic@timeloop.cafe

                            @Mimesatwork @danirabbit

                            Also don't learn about racism, sexism, global warming or activism.

                            I think a big reason for the push to erase kids is Gretta Thunbergs activism because it threatened the oil industry

                            "The most common theme in the banned non-fiction books was activism and social movements."
                            https://www.theguardian.com/books/2026/may/07/banned-non-fiction-books-doubles

                            drwho@masto.hackers.townD This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit She did call out oil company execs by name.

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                            • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

                              @alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit She did call out oil company execs by name.

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                              @drwho @Mimesatwork @danirabbit

                              I mean peter theil was trying to argue Thunberg is the anti-christ.

                              So it's pretty clear she's deeply annoyed the rich.

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                              • tranquillity@mastodon.minionflo.netT tranquillity@mastodon.minionflo.net

                                @danirabbit lock them in the closet until they're 18 (?)

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                                @tranquillity@mastodon.minionflo.net @danirabbit@mastodon.online i think that's genuinely what those people want

                                tranquillity@mastodon.minionflo.netT misusecase@twit.socialM 2 Replies Last reply
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                                • tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloudT tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloud

                                  @tranquillity@mastodon.minionflo.net @danirabbit@mastodon.online i think that's genuinely what those people want

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                                  @tragivictoria @danirabbit yeeep...

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                                  • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                                    I started elementary as a high school student. When we were building the first versions of our desktop environment, one of our core developers was in high school and his parents accompanied him to the Ubuntu Developer Summit. How many things we have today wouldn’t exist if young people weren’t allowed to participate? The cost of not creating spaces that we can safely share with young people is too high

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                                    @danirabbit strictly speaking social media: the rates of depression are also way up there now because of tweens getting jedi mind fucked into algorithmic induced insanity. intoxicating algorithms should perhaps be outlawed and client sided filters be made stronger and more obvious
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                                    • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                                      @FinalGirl haha okay to be fair we bootstrapped for several years. I didn’t get to work on it full time until I was like 25

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                                      @danirabbit you did that in high school. I was playing DnD and drinking enough to destroy my liver.

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                                      • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                                        I started elementary as a high school student. When we were building the first versions of our desktop environment, one of our core developers was in high school and his parents accompanied him to the Ubuntu Developer Summit. How many things we have today wouldn’t exist if young people weren’t allowed to participate? The cost of not creating spaces that we can safely share with young people is too high

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                                        @danirabbit I remember seeing young people at both MozFest and contributing to various parts of Firefox and Thunderbird.

                                        They are valued for what they could do, the perspectives that they had (and led others to) and the continuity it offers a project.

                                        What OpenSUSE is doing is really not smart on many levels. Lets hope it is not a precedent.

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                                        • finalgirl@blackqueer.lifeF finalgirl@blackqueer.life

                                          @danirabbit you did that in high school. I was playing DnD and drinking enough to destroy my liver.

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                                          @FinalGirl @danirabbit
                                          (this is the way)

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