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  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

    I self-host a lot of stuff. Nearly everything that I use. FOSS and self-hosting is a massive part of my computing experience.

    I love reading about people enjoying / exploring self-hosting stuff.

    I struggle when people advocate "just self-host it", without giving due consideration to the costs, risks, security considerations, and so on.

    I know that I've posted this a few times now, but this discussion seems to pop up quite a lot. So:

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    @neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk
    I can agree on this, self-hosting is a different kind of rabbit hole.. requires near constant upkeep, and you spend most of that time looking at logs, analyzing, optimizing and improving what you already have..

    You follow security checks and best practices to secure your self-hosted infra..

    It's not for the faint of heart, can get daunting at times, but the result is satisfaction and knowing you took that first step forward from straying away from bigTech bros.. you feel free somehow..
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    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

      I self-host a lot of stuff. Nearly everything that I use. FOSS and self-hosting is a massive part of my computing experience.

      I love reading about people enjoying / exploring self-hosting stuff.

      I struggle when people advocate "just self-host it", without giving due consideration to the costs, risks, security considerations, and so on.

      I know that I've posted this a few times now, but this discussion seems to pop up quite a lot. So:

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      'Self-host it' is not the answer

      Neil Brown's personal blog.

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      #SelfHosting #FOSS #blog

      clare_hooley@mastodon.me.ukC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #41

      @neil so I don’t self host, but that doesn’t absolve me of choices in what/where tech I buy, and I’ll tell people why I’ve made those choices - somebody has to pay (including volunteer/hobby time) somewhere. Is it £3/month to FB (current UK ‘don’t consent’ price) or the same to this mastodon instance? DropBox/OneDrive/Google, or hetzner for Nextcloud (and actually this one worked out cheaper for us)… Gmail or Runbox… GitHub pages or mythic beasts… the value is worth it.

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      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

        I self-host a lot of stuff. Nearly everything that I use. FOSS and self-hosting is a massive part of my computing experience.

        I love reading about people enjoying / exploring self-hosting stuff.

        I struggle when people advocate "just self-host it", without giving due consideration to the costs, risks, security considerations, and so on.

        I know that I've posted this a few times now, but this discussion seems to pop up quite a lot. So:

        Link Preview Image
        'Self-host it' is not the answer

        Neil Brown's personal blog.

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        (neilzone.co.uk)

        #SelfHosting #FOSS #blog

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        @neil Stepping out on a limb myself here. Here’s my response on why I think self-hosting *IS* an answer. But to understand this we need to, A. First understand the question being asked, and B. Not be overly literal or non-inclusive in terms of how we define “self-hosting”

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        Key concept: We don’t have a great vocabulary for describing the middle ground between pure “I own the hardware” self-hosting to “I use big tech platform A”. Let’s agree there’s self-hosting spectrum.

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        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

          I self-host a lot of stuff. Nearly everything that I use. FOSS and self-hosting is a massive part of my computing experience.

          I love reading about people enjoying / exploring self-hosting stuff.

          I struggle when people advocate "just self-host it", without giving due consideration to the costs, risks, security considerations, and so on.

          I know that I've posted this a few times now, but this discussion seems to pop up quite a lot. So:

          Link Preview Image
          'Self-host it' is not the answer

          Neil Brown's personal blog.

          favicon

          (neilzone.co.uk)

          #SelfHosting #FOSS #blog

          rasterweb@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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          #43

          @neil "Self-hosting requires a heck of a lot of privilege."

          This can be true, but it's easier (and probably cheaper) than ever before.

          And I'm doing it mostly to just say no to corporations getting my data.

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          • rasterweb@mastodon.socialR rasterweb@mastodon.social

            @neil "Self-hosting requires a heck of a lot of privilege."

            This can be true, but it's easier (and probably cheaper) than ever before.

            And I'm doing it mostly to just say no to corporations getting my data.

            neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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            @rasterweb Great!

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            • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

              I self-host a lot of stuff. Nearly everything that I use. FOSS and self-hosting is a massive part of my computing experience.

              I love reading about people enjoying / exploring self-hosting stuff.

              I struggle when people advocate "just self-host it", without giving due consideration to the costs, risks, security considerations, and so on.

              I know that I've posted this a few times now, but this discussion seems to pop up quite a lot. So:

              Link Preview Image
              'Self-host it' is not the answer

              Neil Brown's personal blog.

              favicon

              (neilzone.co.uk)

              #SelfHosting #FOSS #blog

              nini@oldbytes.spaceN This user is from outside of this forum
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              #45

              @neil It's the online version of "just fork it", totally belies the amount of work that implies and some folk don't have that dog in them.

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              • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                I self-host a lot of stuff. Nearly everything that I use. FOSS and self-hosting is a massive part of my computing experience.

                I love reading about people enjoying / exploring self-hosting stuff.

                I struggle when people advocate "just self-host it", without giving due consideration to the costs, risks, security considerations, and so on.

                I know that I've posted this a few times now, but this discussion seems to pop up quite a lot. So:

                Link Preview Image
                'Self-host it' is not the answer

                Neil Brown's personal blog.

                favicon

                (neilzone.co.uk)

                #SelfHosting #FOSS #blog

                floppy@mastodon.me.ukF This user is from outside of this forum
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                #46

                @neil couldn't agree more. Self-hosting is a hobby, and not something that most people will want to do, or should have to.

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                • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                  I self-host a lot of stuff. Nearly everything that I use. FOSS and self-hosting is a massive part of my computing experience.

                  I love reading about people enjoying / exploring self-hosting stuff.

                  I struggle when people advocate "just self-host it", without giving due consideration to the costs, risks, security considerations, and so on.

                  I know that I've posted this a few times now, but this discussion seems to pop up quite a lot. So:

                  Link Preview Image
                  'Self-host it' is not the answer

                  Neil Brown's personal blog.

                  favicon

                  (neilzone.co.uk)

                  #SelfHosting #FOSS #blog

                  lexinova@cyberplace.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #47

                  @neil yeah and it even do not fix the core issue, of even if you self host, it will not allow grandma to join and such condemn it to never be mainstream.

                  linux user made this error back and the day and now that it's easy to use "strangely" the usage skyrocket.

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                  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                    @henryk Interesting analogy!

                    d1@autistics.lifeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @neil @henryk the chicken analogy is great, when it becomes apparent that a system of distribution is needed to sell or provide eggs to others. And also trust and confidence on the part of the egg recipients outside one's household - that too is no trivial thing. There's psychology and relationality there, which goes beyond the sheer technical aspects of raising the chickens.

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                    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                      I self-host a lot of stuff. Nearly everything that I use. FOSS and self-hosting is a massive part of my computing experience.

                      I love reading about people enjoying / exploring self-hosting stuff.

                      I struggle when people advocate "just self-host it", without giving due consideration to the costs, risks, security considerations, and so on.

                      I know that I've posted this a few times now, but this discussion seems to pop up quite a lot. So:

                      Link Preview Image
                      'Self-host it' is not the answer

                      Neil Brown's personal blog.

                      favicon

                      (neilzone.co.uk)

                      #SelfHosting #FOSS #blog

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                      #49

                      @neil self hosted EU soverign torment nexus

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