Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (Cyborg)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Brand Logo

CIRCLE WITH A DOT

  1. Home
  2. Uncategorized
  3. I’m seeing a lot of infosec kids and now leftist accounts(!) defend proton on the grounds that it’s not reasonable for them to anonymize payment details

I’m seeing a lot of infosec kids and now leftist accounts(!) defend proton on the grounds that it’s not reasonable for them to anonymize payment details

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Uncategorized
3 Posts 2 Posters 0 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • zzt@mas.toZ This user is from outside of this forum
    zzt@mas.toZ This user is from outside of this forum
    zzt@mas.to
    wrote last edited by
    #1

    I’m seeing a lot of infosec kids and now leftist accounts(!) defend proton on the grounds that it’s not reasonable for them to anonymize payment details

    so uhhh here’s the open source tech signal uses to anonymize payments for their only paid feature: https://signal.org/blog/introducing-secure-backups/ and there’s other ways to do it too

    there’s also no reason for proton to strongly link logins with message metadata. signal doesn’t, even though its login UI uses phone numbers, which are of similar sensitivity to emails.

    zzt@mas.toZ 1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

      I’m seeing a lot of infosec kids and now leftist accounts(!) defend proton on the grounds that it’s not reasonable for them to anonymize payment details

      so uhhh here’s the open source tech signal uses to anonymize payments for their only paid feature: https://signal.org/blog/introducing-secure-backups/ and there’s other ways to do it too

      there’s also no reason for proton to strongly link logins with message metadata. signal doesn’t, even though its login UI uses phone numbers, which are of similar sensitivity to emails.

      zzt@mas.toZ This user is from outside of this forum
      zzt@mas.toZ This user is from outside of this forum
      zzt@mas.to
      wrote last edited by
      #2

      proton collects and correlates a ridiculous amount of metadata for what it is and how it’s marketed

      but you know what? maybe their poor former CERN current bitcoiner LLM enthusiast far-right-defending (for years before their CEO made that one post) cryptographers don’t know how to use ZK proofs or any other technique to keep their users safe

      if that’s the case maybe they can use a fraction of their marketing budget to make damn sure their users know that?

      spinnyspinlock@infosec.exchangeS 1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

        proton collects and correlates a ridiculous amount of metadata for what it is and how it’s marketed

        but you know what? maybe their poor former CERN current bitcoiner LLM enthusiast far-right-defending (for years before their CEO made that one post) cryptographers don’t know how to use ZK proofs or any other technique to keep their users safe

        if that’s the case maybe they can use a fraction of their marketing budget to make damn sure their users know that?

        spinnyspinlock@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
        spinnyspinlock@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
        spinnyspinlock@infosec.exchange
        wrote last edited by
        #3

        @zzt It is quite the business model to sell "security and privacy" to everyone but those needing it most

        I hope that doesn't come off wrong

        1 Reply Last reply
        1
        0
        • R relay@relay.infosec.exchange shared this topic
        Reply
        • Reply as topic
        Log in to reply
        • Oldest to Newest
        • Newest to Oldest
        • Most Votes


        • Login

        • Login or register to search.
        • First post
          Last post
        0
        • Categories
        • Recent
        • Tags
        • Popular
        • World
        • Users
        • Groups