ew, proton’s back on fedi again and acting like someone’s uncle who just discovered shitposting

[zzt@mas.to]

“but guys, the room, remember the room?” not as clearly as I remember you insisting features that send message data in plaintext to your servers are “end-to-end encrypted” because you consider yourself one of the ends

not as much as I remember how much your users are fucked if they interact with your services with anything but perfect opsec. but anyone with anything approaching perfect opsec doesn’t use proton

not as much as I remember how much of a shit your CEO is

[sharpcheddargoblin@reclusive.blog]

@zzt Yeah... I've been migrating away from Proton for a bit here. Almost ready to nuke my account.

[zzt@mas.to]

oh also in addition to the AI crap they’ve been pushing bitcoins as a privacy coin which: lol

I hate cryptocurrencies so much I can fucking taste it but if you have to use one for privacy, bitcoin is the worst fucking choice. if you must use crypto, use something like monero. don’t fuck up your life cause proton says a coin mixer is private enough. they have obvious political motivations for wanting you to use specifically bitcoin.

but ideally don’t use fucking cryptocurrencies

[daemonspudguy@app.wafrn.net]

@zzt@mas.to

Proton Mail focusing so heavily on the "We're European!" angle was always a red flag to me. And then I learned that "secure email" is oxymoronic. And then I learned that they paywall features as basic as using an email client. And then I learned that their CEO is a Trumper. There are so many red flags here it might as well be the reunion of Comintern.

[hipsterelectron@circumstances.run]

@zzt they got those spanish climate activists jailed because they absolutely do keep logs and point to swiss anti-terrorism law and then FUCKING LIE about it! this is why i'm so harsh on anyone claiming to do crypto that shit is an IMMENSE responsibility

[minego@pdx.social]

@zzt I had just seen some posts about valve and steamOS before reading this, and was VERY confused for a moment before remembering that there are multiple things called proton.

[zzt@mas.to]

I’m so glad proton is wasting the money I used to give them for expensive email on pointless AI horseshit instead of implementing one of the many ZKP options for payments, so that giving them money doesn’t constitute an account compromise and massive privacy breach

signal considered not linking payments to account activity to be table stakes before they implemented even a single paid feature, and their implementation of their payment mechanism is open source

[max@peering.social]

@zzt And creating more vendor lock-in instead of backing FOSS solutions.

[tael@yiff.life]

@hipsterelectron @zzt When I posted that article about the Stop Cop City protestor who got unmasked to my Proton-using comrades they replied that it wasn't Proton's fault they made no effort at all to inform people who paid for their service that their payment details could be made available to authorities in foreign countries and tied to their accounts. They "only hand over data when compelled to by Swiss law," and disclose that info on their transparency report, so it's not their fault that they aggressively advertise themselves as a privacy-focused Google that will never comply with a foreign government's orders and assure you your data is encrypted and protected by Europe's privacy laws and don't include anywhere on the payment page that this is a possible outcome.

[checkmite@indieweb.social]

@sharpcheddargoblin @zzt I'm aware of Tutanota; what are some other decent alternatives?