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Firefly came out on DVD at a very particular time in my life and my wife and I were huge fans.

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  • jenny753@indiepocalypse.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    Firefly came out on DVD at a very particular time in my life and my wife and I were huge fans. We even considered naming a daughter (if we ever had one) Inara.

    But more than 20 years have passed and looking back at it leaves me uncomfortable.

    Broken Chinese spoken mostly by white actors, but no time for Asian actors. This weird Confederate apologia. Hell, naming a faction the "Browncoats" when the Brownshirts were Hitler's paramilitary. The lead repeatedly negging his love interest and calling her a WHORE...

    Ron Glass is dead so if they bring back Shepherd Book they'll have to recast it, but they made damn sure to bring back Adam Baldwin -- who I'll remind everyone was a damned GamerGater.

    This whole thing is making me 😬.

    There's no win here. What was accepted 20 years ago isn't (or shouldn't be) acceptable today. If they change Firefly, people will complain it doesn't match up to the original. If they don't change Firefly, people will complain it doesn't meet the current political climate.

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      Firefly came out on DVD at a very particular time in my life and my wife and I were huge fans. We even considered naming a daughter (if we ever had one) Inara.

      But more than 20 years have passed and looking back at it leaves me uncomfortable.

      Broken Chinese spoken mostly by white actors, but no time for Asian actors. This weird Confederate apologia. Hell, naming a faction the "Browncoats" when the Brownshirts were Hitler's paramilitary. The lead repeatedly negging his love interest and calling her a WHORE...

      Ron Glass is dead so if they bring back Shepherd Book they'll have to recast it, but they made damn sure to bring back Adam Baldwin -- who I'll remind everyone was a damned GamerGater.

      This whole thing is making me 😬.

      There's no win here. What was accepted 20 years ago isn't (or shouldn't be) acceptable today. If they change Firefly, people will complain it doesn't match up to the original. If they don't change Firefly, people will complain it doesn't meet the current political climate.

      lexpendragon@quarteredcircle.netL This user is from outside of this forum
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      @jenny753 You are not wrong.

      ... but this is also a new start and a chance for them to do a lot of those things correctly this time.

      (As someone has ho did name their kid Inara. I'm hopeful.)

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      • jenny753@indiepocalypse.socialJ jenny753@indiepocalypse.social

        Firefly came out on DVD at a very particular time in my life and my wife and I were huge fans. We even considered naming a daughter (if we ever had one) Inara.

        But more than 20 years have passed and looking back at it leaves me uncomfortable.

        Broken Chinese spoken mostly by white actors, but no time for Asian actors. This weird Confederate apologia. Hell, naming a faction the "Browncoats" when the Brownshirts were Hitler's paramilitary. The lead repeatedly negging his love interest and calling her a WHORE...

        Ron Glass is dead so if they bring back Shepherd Book they'll have to recast it, but they made damn sure to bring back Adam Baldwin -- who I'll remind everyone was a damned GamerGater.

        This whole thing is making me 😬.

        There's no win here. What was accepted 20 years ago isn't (or shouldn't be) acceptable today. If they change Firefly, people will complain it doesn't match up to the original. If they don't change Firefly, people will complain it doesn't meet the current political climate.

        jenny753@indiepocalypse.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
        jenny753@indiepocalypse.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        I missed this detail before. So it's "in production" at Nathan's own production studio and he's pitching it. Given what happened with the Buffy reboot, it might be a tough sale anyway.

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          Firefly came out on DVD at a very particular time in my life and my wife and I were huge fans. We even considered naming a daughter (if we ever had one) Inara.

          But more than 20 years have passed and looking back at it leaves me uncomfortable.

          Broken Chinese spoken mostly by white actors, but no time for Asian actors. This weird Confederate apologia. Hell, naming a faction the "Browncoats" when the Brownshirts were Hitler's paramilitary. The lead repeatedly negging his love interest and calling her a WHORE...

          Ron Glass is dead so if they bring back Shepherd Book they'll have to recast it, but they made damn sure to bring back Adam Baldwin -- who I'll remind everyone was a damned GamerGater.

          This whole thing is making me 😬.

          There's no win here. What was accepted 20 years ago isn't (or shouldn't be) acceptable today. If they change Firefly, people will complain it doesn't match up to the original. If they don't change Firefly, people will complain it doesn't meet the current political climate.

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          @jenny753 Yeah, there's absolutely no way this turns out well with the people involved right now. Also I've noticed that Firefly fandom has died down drastically over time compared some other niche SF series of the era: I see even more Farscape posting these days.

          Mind you, I'm a huge Farscape fan so...

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            @jenny753 Yeah, there's absolutely no way this turns out well with the people involved right now. Also I've noticed that Firefly fandom has died down drastically over time compared some other niche SF series of the era: I see even more Farscape posting these days.

            Mind you, I'm a huge Farscape fan so...

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            @jenny753 Not that Farscape doesn't have its own issues, but they're less intrinsic to the setting/cast of the work.

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            • jenny753@indiepocalypse.socialJ jenny753@indiepocalypse.social

              I missed this detail before. So it's "in production" at Nathan's own production studio and he's pitching it. Given what happened with the Buffy reboot, it might be a tough sale anyway.

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              @jenny753

              Lots of actors pitch lots of stuff for the legacy characters they once played.

              My take is that with the current shift in ownership of the major media, he may feel that decision makers in studios will be willing to overlook some of the more toxic positions he’s taken since he’s been starring in *The Rookie*.

              For my part, I was surprised that *Resident Alien* was willing to bring him in for cameos, but I am not part of the *Firefly* fandom.

              In any event, I’m really not sure what market these weird western in space kind of shows have outside the US at this point. Paramount+’s market would be a more likely fit for the show, especially given his current show is on CBS, but the IP belongs to Disney.

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