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  • davidaugust@mastodon.onlineD davidaugust@mastodon.online

    #USpol #Norway #taxes #tax

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    @davidaugust There is a reason Norway tops all the metrics for quality of life and usa does not

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    • nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN nuwagaba2@mastodon.social

      @nazokiyoubinbou
      What can be done to change that system?

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      @nuwagaba2 @nazokiyoubinbou set up schools to teach social democracy to Americans.

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      • mike@cyberczar.orgM mike@cyberczar.org

        @davidaugust@mastodon.online
        I don't think Americans pity anybody else's tax rate. You don't think most Americans don't know our for-profit healthcare system sucks? Do you think Americans honestly want to launch GoFundMes? SCOTUS has made it all but impossible for actual Americans to do fuck-all about anything. Citizens United basically allowed every politician to be openly bought and paid for.

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        @mike @davidaugust you can always put those armalites to use? I mean a hell of a lot of you did it before so you can keep profiteering from slavery so surely a insurrection to keep some semblance of freedom is a whorty cause?

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        • thecomfortablespotpodcast@mastodon.socialT thecomfortablespotpodcast@mastodon.social

          @mike @davidaugust you can always put those armalites to use? I mean a hell of a lot of you did it before so you can keep profiteering from slavery so surely a insurrection to keep some semblance of freedom is a whorty cause?

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          @davidaugust@mastodon.online @TheComfortableSpotPodcast@mastodon.social
          Have you seen our American Military? They no longer have muskets and bayonets any more. They have tanks and MRAPs and an unlimited supply of weapons and ammunition.

          Do you honestly think any American, let alone even a "well armed milita" (words in the 2nd Amendment) can honestly stand up to the US Military? ISIS tried. Al Qaeda tried. The Taliban tried. And they were a helluva lot better armed (not to mention their home-turf advantage) and they couldn't.

          So what makes you think any American citizen can?

          This is no longer the 18th Century.

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          • joshbuddy@sfba.socialJ joshbuddy@sfba.social

            @davidaugust I liked Tim Wu's point the other day that private corporation in America are basically creating a "private tax", where they are being extractive and taking the profits while provide no value to consumers. His example of this was Amazon's pay-for-boosting merchants pay into, and that gets translated into higher consumer prices.

            I wonder if you could analyze this "private tax", maybe the tax rate wouldn't be that different?

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            @davidaugust This was the episode if anyone was curious https://art19.com/shows/factually--with-adam-conover/episodes/15cde6ef-07e2-4833-b21d-ddf74c7d81a8

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            • davidaugust@mastodon.onlineD davidaugust@mastodon.online

              #USpol #Norway #taxes #tax

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              @davidaugust plot twist. Gofundme destabilizes governments to drive up adoption

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              • dacig@mastodon.socialD dacig@mastodon.social

                @davidaugust When you are paying for private healthcare, you are also paying the providers margin.
                That makes it much more expensive that tax funded healthcare systems that don't take profits. About twice as much in the US than in the EU, with poorer outcomes.

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                @dacig @davidaugust provider margin, ads, political contributions...

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                • davidaugust@mastodon.onlineD davidaugust@mastodon.online

                  #USpol #Norway #taxes #tax

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                  @davidaugust In all fairness, #America has 64 times the amount of annual gun deaths, per capita, than #Norway so take that you Norsepeople. #US firearm death rate is 4.31 per 100,000 people per year, Norway had two (2), total, in 2023. America doesn’t take care of the population so much we just thin the herd, so tech billionaires can buy up broadcast and social media.

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                  • thecomfortablespotpodcast@mastodon.socialT thecomfortablespotpodcast@mastodon.social

                    @nuwagaba2 @nazokiyoubinbou set up schools to teach social democracy to Americans.

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                    @TheComfortableSpotPodcast
                    Who will establish those schools and implement that kind of education?

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                    • davidaugust@mastodon.onlineD davidaugust@mastodon.online

                      #USpol #Norway #taxes #tax

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                      @davidaugust Some people like living in a mandatory GoFundMe state. Some don't. Go figure.
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                      • davidaugust@mastodon.onlineD davidaugust@mastodon.online

                        #USpol #Norway #taxes #tax

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                        @davidaugust
                        This☝️

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                        • faliate@mastodon.socialF faliate@mastodon.social

                          @davidaugust
                          I don't think people understand the idea of free Healthcare. Yes, paying for it in taxes, means it's not free. However, paying for it in taxes means, I don't have to go six years without glasses because I can't afford the exam. It means if my glasses break today, I can go to get an exam, get my prescription and go to get my glasses without taking from my food, rent, and clothing.
                          Not sure about glasses outside of the US, is that a separate charge?

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                          @faliate @davidaugust In Germany, though examination by an ophthalmologist is free, glasses are usually not covered, except if you're practically blind without them.

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                          • ysegrim@furry.engineerY ysegrim@furry.engineer

                            @faliate @davidaugust In Germany, though examination by an ophthalmologist is free, glasses are usually not covered, except if you're practically blind without them.

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                            @ysegrim @davidaugust
                            This is why I wish my grandparents never left Germany. Also, one of the reasons why I want to migrate back to Germany. Besides the culture and food, there are many great things about Germany.

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                            • libertyforward1@beige.partyL libertyforward1@beige.party

                              @faliate
                              I average about 8 or 9 years per set of eyeglasses.

                              @davidaugust

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                              @LibertyForward1 @faliate @davidaugust that may not last forever. At a certain age you might benefit from new glasses every 2-4 years

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                              • nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN nuwagaba2@mastodon.social

                                @nazokiyoubinbou
                                That's okay. I just wanted to see whether we have the same idea. Education can be a better way out. If we cab educate the people and the children the importance of togetherness, we can address such a challenge. Because they want us divided, that's why the children even at school are not allowed to help each other during tests and exams. Can i share with you about my project?

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                                @nuwagaba2 @nazokiyoubinbou I just wanna chime in that I agree education is (a large part of) our way out of this. If it wasn't an important tool for liberation, oligarchs wouldn't have done so much to prevent and destroy it. I'm not sure exactly what needs to be done, but I know we all need to heal, learn, and prioritize community (local or global or both) over isolation and competition

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                                • mike@cyberczar.orgM mike@cyberczar.org

                                  @davidaugust@mastodon.online @TheComfortableSpotPodcast@mastodon.social
                                  Have you seen our American Military? They no longer have muskets and bayonets any more. They have tanks and MRAPs and an unlimited supply of weapons and ammunition.

                                  Do you honestly think any American, let alone even a "well armed milita" (words in the 2nd Amendment) can honestly stand up to the US Military? ISIS tried. Al Qaeda tried. The Taliban tried. And they were a helluva lot better armed (not to mention their home-turf advantage) and they couldn't.

                                  So what makes you think any American citizen can?

                                  This is no longer the 18th Century.

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                                  @mike @davidaugust to be honest, my original comment was in jest, but history does show that nations built on fragile democratic systems and deep internal divisions can unravel quickly — and when that happens, institutions, including the military, don’t always remain unified. 1)

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                                  • thecomfortablespotpodcast@mastodon.socialT thecomfortablespotpodcast@mastodon.social

                                    @mike @davidaugust to be honest, my original comment was in jest, but history does show that nations built on fragile democratic systems and deep internal divisions can unravel quickly — and when that happens, institutions, including the military, don’t always remain unified. 1)

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                                    @mike @davidaugust Comparing this to ISIS, Al-Qaeda, or the Taliban misses the point. Those weren’t conventional wars, and in the case of the Taliban, the outcome after 20 years is an even stronger Taliban in Afghanistan. The real risk in a constitutional crisis isn’t a militia “beating” the U.S. military in open combat — it’s political fracture and divided loyalties within institutions themselves. History suggests that kind of breakdown is far more plausible than a Hollywood-style showdown. 🔚

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                                    • davidaugust@mastodon.onlineD davidaugust@mastodon.online

                                      @nazokiyoubinbou yeah. Same expense but no benefits.

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                                      @davidaugust

                                      For somebody else's benefit
                                      @nazokiyoubinbou

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                                      • derpumu@mstdn.gamesD derpumu@mstdn.games

                                        @LibertyForward1 @faliate @davidaugust that may not last forever. At a certain age you might benefit from new glasses every 2-4 years

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                                        @DerPumu @faliate @davidaugust I would love to replace them that often, but I'm generally only able to scrape enough money together every decade or so

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                                        • raphaelmorgan@disabled.socialR raphaelmorgan@disabled.social

                                          @nuwagaba2 @nazokiyoubinbou I just wanna chime in that I agree education is (a large part of) our way out of this. If it wasn't an important tool for liberation, oligarchs wouldn't have done so much to prevent and destroy it. I'm not sure exactly what needs to be done, but I know we all need to heal, learn, and prioritize community (local or global or both) over isolation and competition

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                                          @raphaelmorgan
                                          That's right. The best way of preventing a prisoner from escaping is by not letting him know that he's a slave. Are the people aware that their freedom is slowly being taken away?

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