I don't think it's possible to get "mainstream communities" away from Discord to any open alternative.
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I don't think it's possible to get "mainstream communities" away from Discord to any open alternative. Not after they got a taste of maximal convenience.
For forums to make a comeback, they'd have to reach the same level of convenience. People would like to have a single account which allows them to browse forums and use them without having to register over and over again. People who want to run a community shouldn't be required to have technical knowledge about how to host a forum software. And of course, things generally shouldn't be janky.
Those are the minimal requirements which are only viable if a single huge provider runs the show. -
I don't think it's possible to get "mainstream communities" away from Discord to any open alternative. Not after they got a taste of maximal convenience.
For forums to make a comeback, they'd have to reach the same level of convenience. People would like to have a single account which allows them to browse forums and use them without having to register over and over again. People who want to run a community shouldn't be required to have technical knowledge about how to host a forum software. And of course, things generally shouldn't be janky.
Those are the minimal requirements which are only viable if a single huge provider runs the show.@volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip
NodeBB supports activity pub in its current indev version, see https://docs.nodebb.org/activitypub/
So I think this is a step in the right direction. (Plus NodeBB is pretty nice IMO)
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I don't think it's possible to get "mainstream communities" away from Discord to any open alternative. Not after they got a taste of maximal convenience.
For forums to make a comeback, they'd have to reach the same level of convenience. People would like to have a single account which allows them to browse forums and use them without having to register over and over again. People who want to run a community shouldn't be required to have technical knowledge about how to host a forum software. And of course, things generally shouldn't be janky.
Those are the minimal requirements which are only viable if a single huge provider runs the show.Federation isn't a solution because it adds the requirement to know how to host an instance. Delegating the hosting to providers defeats the purpose of decentralization. True federation like here is janky. Bluesky-style federation suffers centralization of power.
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Federation isn't a solution because it adds the requirement to know how to host an instance. Delegating the hosting to providers defeats the purpose of decentralization. True federation like here is janky. Bluesky-style federation suffers centralization of power.
@volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip You just wanted to shoot me, didnt you?
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I don't think it's possible to get "mainstream communities" away from Discord to any open alternative. Not after they got a taste of maximal convenience.
For forums to make a comeback, they'd have to reach the same level of convenience. People would like to have a single account which allows them to browse forums and use them without having to register over and over again. People who want to run a community shouldn't be required to have technical knowledge about how to host a forum software. And of course, things generally shouldn't be janky.
Those are the minimal requirements which are only viable if a single huge provider runs the show.Guys, stop telling me Discord is janky. Maybe it is, I don't know, but surely not in the "different people only see different subsets of posts" kind of way like we got going here
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Federation isn't a solution because it adds the requirement to know how to host an instance. Delegating the hosting to providers defeats the purpose of decentralization. True federation like here is janky. Bluesky-style federation suffers centralization of power.
@volpeon you don't have to know how to host for federation to work though
being able to self-host is just an added benefit.I think Fediverse does it pretty well because you can interact with everyone and everything across every instance with your single account, we just need a better onboarding process and softwares that are more familiar for people.
In the end tho, I think Eugen said it well, it's not so much the convenience as "if everyone used smoke signals, that's where everyone'd stay"
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