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It's not always the creators of a product that use it to it's fullest.

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    It's not always the creators of a product that use it to it's fullest. Sometimes a third-party steps in and says 'Hold my beverage, I got this.'

    in the case of Ableton Move, a fantastic human called Charles has created something called 'Move Everything' which does many things, but for blind people, one of the most important is to bring screen-reader support directly on-device.

    Ableton started the work by having a web-based offering which can be read by your own screen-reader of choice, but that of course means that Move is not a stand-alone groovebox in that state.

    Charles piggybacks off of Ableton's work and onboards both Flight and ESpeak-NG for text-to-speech, so if you really want to make a beat off-grid, in a log cabin in the woods, or on a plain without Wi-Fi access and just a pair of headphones, you now can.

    In this video I give a quick overview of the accessibility that Move Everything provides, and virtually take my hat off to Charles for his hard work and dedication to excellence.

    This device is now, more than ever, something I can legitimately say to other blind creators 'This can be your stand-alone beat-maker of choice. go and have fun!'

    My video: https://youtu.be/umuE4FM4z9o
    Peter Kirn's blog entry about Move Everything's Accessibility features: https://cdm.link/move-everything-visually-impaired-guide/

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      It's not always the creators of a product that use it to it's fullest. Sometimes a third-party steps in and says 'Hold my beverage, I got this.'

      in the case of Ableton Move, a fantastic human called Charles has created something called 'Move Everything' which does many things, but for blind people, one of the most important is to bring screen-reader support directly on-device.

      Ableton started the work by having a web-based offering which can be read by your own screen-reader of choice, but that of course means that Move is not a stand-alone groovebox in that state.

      Charles piggybacks off of Ableton's work and onboards both Flight and ESpeak-NG for text-to-speech, so if you really want to make a beat off-grid, in a log cabin in the woods, or on a plain without Wi-Fi access and just a pair of headphones, you now can.

      In this video I give a quick overview of the accessibility that Move Everything provides, and virtually take my hat off to Charles for his hard work and dedication to excellence.

      This device is now, more than ever, something I can legitimately say to other blind creators 'This can be your stand-alone beat-maker of choice. go and have fun!'

      My video: https://youtu.be/umuE4FM4z9o
      Peter Kirn's blog entry about Move Everything's Accessibility features: https://cdm.link/move-everything-visually-impaired-guide/

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      @Onj I might buy a move now. Yes, I primarily use AI to make my music, but, if I can make my own beats and then use them as inspiration for songs that I make in Suno, that would honestly be pretty awesome. I'd use this in particular for any kind of electronic music that I make, like tekno or any type of music similar to that genre. Will definitely take a look for the future now that it can be used Stand-alone.

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        @Onj I might buy a move now. Yes, I primarily use AI to make my music, but, if I can make my own beats and then use them as inspiration for songs that I make in Suno, that would honestly be pretty awesome. I'd use this in particular for any kind of electronic music that I make, like tekno or any type of music similar to that genre. Will definitely take a look for the future now that it can be used Stand-alone.

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        @LeonianUniverse You should.

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          @LeonianUniverse You should.

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          @Onj I do remember it being around 500 bucks or something like that, also, do you by chance have an affiliate link I can use to buy it to support you in the process? You’re honestly such a legend and if I do get one, I want to do something to support you and your work. Honestly look up to you as a role-model as a musician.

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            @Onj I do remember it being around 500 bucks or something like that, also, do you by chance have an affiliate link I can use to buy it to support you in the process? You’re honestly such a legend and if I do get one, I want to do something to support you and your work. Honestly look up to you as a role-model as a musician.

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            @LeonianUniverse You're very kind to say so, but no affiliation sadly, only with NI, not Ableton.
            Yes I believe the US price is $499 but you'd need to check that directly to be sure. Maybe sweetwater or something could offer finance, not sure.

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              @LeonianUniverse You're very kind to say so, but no affiliation sadly, only with NI, not Ableton.
              Yes I believe the US price is $499 but you'd need to check that directly to be sure. Maybe sweetwater or something could offer finance, not sure.

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              @Onj I'd just save up, but I do have a question, my understanding is that you can have up to 4 tracks at once that you get to work with. Is that a constraint that you yourself find limiting compared to for example, the Machine which doesn't have the same limitation. Also, somehow, my brother thinks that you’re also limited to a 4-4 time signature for making beats, but I don't know how that's possible.

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                @Onj I'd just save up, but I do have a question, my understanding is that you can have up to 4 tracks at once that you get to work with. Is that a constraint that you yourself find limiting compared to for example, the Machine which doesn't have the same limitation. Also, somehow, my brother thinks that you’re also limited to a 4-4 time signature for making beats, but I don't know how that's possible.

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                @LeonianUniverse It's only limiting if you think small, and same with the 4/4 time signature. I've done stuff in 6 and 7 just ignoring the metronome boundaries. You only have to look at this year's Movuary posts to hear that for yourself.
                With resampling and bouncing whole sets to drum pads, you can trigger a whole host of sounds in a single set.

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                  @LeonianUniverse It's only limiting if you think small, and same with the 4/4 time signature. I've done stuff in 6 and 7 just ignoring the metronome boundaries. You only have to look at this year's Movuary posts to hear that for yourself.
                  With resampling and bouncing whole sets to drum pads, you can trigger a whole host of sounds in a single set.

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                  @Onj Yeah, I thought so, didn't make sense to me that you were only limited to one time signature for all of your music. I personally wouldn't mess around with that too much, as while I do have much in the way with music theory as I played the French Horn for 10 years, I'm not a piano player by any means. That being said, I am very curious about this and might indeed see it as a worthwhile investment especially because it can be used stand-alone.

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                    @Onj Yeah, I thought so, didn't make sense to me that you were only limited to one time signature for all of your music. I personally wouldn't mess around with that too much, as while I do have much in the way with music theory as I played the French Horn for 10 years, I'm not a piano player by any means. That being said, I am very curious about this and might indeed see it as a worthwhile investment especially because it can be used stand-alone.

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                    @LeonianUniverse The metronomic count of Move is only 4/4, but like I said if you can think differently, you can get around it very easily.

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                      It's not always the creators of a product that use it to it's fullest. Sometimes a third-party steps in and says 'Hold my beverage, I got this.'

                      in the case of Ableton Move, a fantastic human called Charles has created something called 'Move Everything' which does many things, but for blind people, one of the most important is to bring screen-reader support directly on-device.

                      Ableton started the work by having a web-based offering which can be read by your own screen-reader of choice, but that of course means that Move is not a stand-alone groovebox in that state.

                      Charles piggybacks off of Ableton's work and onboards both Flight and ESpeak-NG for text-to-speech, so if you really want to make a beat off-grid, in a log cabin in the woods, or on a plain without Wi-Fi access and just a pair of headphones, you now can.

                      In this video I give a quick overview of the accessibility that Move Everything provides, and virtually take my hat off to Charles for his hard work and dedication to excellence.

                      This device is now, more than ever, something I can legitimately say to other blind creators 'This can be your stand-alone beat-maker of choice. go and have fun!'

                      My video: https://youtu.be/umuE4FM4z9o
                      Peter Kirn's blog entry about Move Everything's Accessibility features: https://cdm.link/move-everything-visually-impaired-guide/

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                      @kaveinthran @Onj What is indeed very cool!

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