I hear the term “regime change” tossed about with dismaying ease, as if it’s as simple as changing the sheets or something.
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I hear the term “regime change” tossed about with dismaying ease, as if it’s as simple as changing the sheets or something. So, for the sake of all operating in the same reality:
1. “Regime change” is an act of war and a violation of long-standing international law FOR GOOD REASON.
2. This hasn’t stopped the US (and other major powers) over the the last 70 years
3. The track record of “regime change” is abysmal, leading almost inevitably to more human suffering, and less stability in the long term
4. The current (terrible) regime in Iran is a *direct result* of previous “regime change” meddling -
I hear the term “regime change” tossed about with dismaying ease, as if it’s as simple as changing the sheets or something. So, for the sake of all operating in the same reality:
1. “Regime change” is an act of war and a violation of long-standing international law FOR GOOD REASON.
2. This hasn’t stopped the US (and other major powers) over the the last 70 years
3. The track record of “regime change” is abysmal, leading almost inevitably to more human suffering, and less stability in the long term
4. The current (terrible) regime in Iran is a *direct result* of previous “regime change” meddlingIt is completely unclear what these numpties think “regime change” even means (it seems to me that they don’t either).
Does it mean taking out a prominent leader (who was 86 and likely to die soon anyway), or the wholesale replacement of the entire government structure? The first doesn’t change the country much at all… Khamenei didn’t slaughter thousands of protesters with his own hands, his underlings are quite capable of staying on course. The second means reinventing government from the ground up, on the fly, by inexperienced people, leaving the nation vulnerable to the risk of a takeover to radical partisans… which is how the people of Iran ended up in the current pickle to begin with.
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It is completely unclear what these numpties think “regime change” even means (it seems to me that they don’t either).
Does it mean taking out a prominent leader (who was 86 and likely to die soon anyway), or the wholesale replacement of the entire government structure? The first doesn’t change the country much at all… Khamenei didn’t slaughter thousands of protesters with his own hands, his underlings are quite capable of staying on course. The second means reinventing government from the ground up, on the fly, by inexperienced people, leaving the nation vulnerable to the risk of a takeover to radical partisans… which is how the people of Iran ended up in the current pickle to begin with.
@DavidM_yeg projecting an #affect and a #feeling, #virturesignaling to idiots and white nationalists, posturing power, is what it is all about. This is our first generation of leaders elected by #socialmedia and their relationship to reality is quite variable. Let's just start calling this era what it is, unthought or accidental #napoleonic times. The goals are obviously #glory. But we can still hope for a better future for long suffering #Iran and maybe a breakthrough in #ukraine? Idk, maybe.
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I hear the term “regime change” tossed about with dismaying ease, as if it’s as simple as changing the sheets or something. So, for the sake of all operating in the same reality:
1. “Regime change” is an act of war and a violation of long-standing international law FOR GOOD REASON.
2. This hasn’t stopped the US (and other major powers) over the the last 70 years
3. The track record of “regime change” is abysmal, leading almost inevitably to more human suffering, and less stability in the long term
4. The current (terrible) regime in Iran is a *direct result* of previous “regime change” meddling@DavidM_yeg & Saddam, who featured prominently in the previous round of the forever wars, was also a regime that was a direct consequence of a regime change.
The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan was 'regime changed' in 01 or so - and is more-or-less back since 2021, when the Taliban chased the US out.So, regime change in the middle east is something the US likes to try to do a lot - but is very, very bad at.
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I hear the term “regime change” tossed about with dismaying ease, as if it’s as simple as changing the sheets or something. So, for the sake of all operating in the same reality:
1. “Regime change” is an act of war and a violation of long-standing international law FOR GOOD REASON.
2. This hasn’t stopped the US (and other major powers) over the the last 70 years
3. The track record of “regime change” is abysmal, leading almost inevitably to more human suffering, and less stability in the long term
4. The current (terrible) regime in Iran is a *direct result* of previous “regime change” meddling@DavidM_yeg I have had several of the same thoughts.
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I hear the term “regime change” tossed about with dismaying ease, as if it’s as simple as changing the sheets or something. So, for the sake of all operating in the same reality:
1. “Regime change” is an act of war and a violation of long-standing international law FOR GOOD REASON.
2. This hasn’t stopped the US (and other major powers) over the the last 70 years
3. The track record of “regime change” is abysmal, leading almost inevitably to more human suffering, and less stability in the long term
4. The current (terrible) regime in Iran is a *direct result* of previous “regime change” meddlingUnfortunately, to prevent our government from committing external coups like this, we would have to change our regime first.
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@DavidM_yeg & Saddam, who featured prominently in the previous round of the forever wars, was also a regime that was a direct consequence of a regime change.
The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan was 'regime changed' in 01 or so - and is more-or-less back since 2021, when the Taliban chased the US out.So, regime change in the middle east is something the US likes to try to do a lot - but is very, very bad at.
Saddam was a CIA asset going back to the 50s, devoting his life to regime change until he was the regime.
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