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So I recently discovered that a shitpost I made about job titles on the company network is now evidence in a court case.

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  • tomf@mastodon.gamedev.placeT tomf@mastodon.gamedev.place

    @3janeTA @Primo @tarkasteve
    Warnie is Shane Warne
    Boonie is David Boon
    They were excellent Australian cricketers.
    You'll never guess who Don Bradman was...

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    @TomF @Primo @tarkasteve you are correct, I will never guess

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      @Tubemeister @ingram @tarkasteve "Principal". Other completely meaningless terms I've seen sprinkled into job titles like unbelievably pretentious confetti are "staff" and "distinguished".

      Personally, if anyone foolishly gives me authority over job titles, I'm making "extremely senior engineer"s.

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      @whbboyd @Tubemeister @tarkasteve The title inflation got to the point there are now Distinguished Senior Technical Fellows. Because having an office and carpark* as a Senior Tech Fellow wasn't enough.

      US only. No carparks or offices for Australia

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      • tubemeister@mstdn.socialT tubemeister@mstdn.social

        @whbboyd @ingram @tarkasteve I’ve been going by “General Specialist” for a while. 😉

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        @Tubemeister @whbboyd @tarkasteve Specialist Generalist works for me

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        • noratrieb@hachyderm.ioN noratrieb@hachyderm.io

          @whbboyd @Tubemeister @ingram @tarkasteve Senior Engineer, Senior Senior engineer, Senior Senior Senior Engineer

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          @noratrieb @whbboyd @Tubemeister @tarkasteve Chief Engineers are like that. Is it the Project Chief, the Program Chief, the Division Chief or the Company Chief? I started calling the company chief the "chief chief chief" and it started to stick, to his disgust.

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          • W whbboyd@infosec.exchange

            @Tubemeister @ingram @tarkasteve "Principal". Other completely meaningless terms I've seen sprinkled into job titles like unbelievably pretentious confetti are "staff" and "distinguished".

            Personally, if anyone foolishly gives me authority over job titles, I'm making "extremely senior engineer"s.

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            @whbboyd @Tubemeister @ingram there were a lot of title changes, but it was changing "principle" to "staff" that was the most egregious, as "staff engineer" just sounds like "general shit-kicker" in Australian. Hence the localisation joke.

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            • tarkasteve@hachyderm.ioT tarkasteve@hachyderm.io

              @whbboyd @Tubemeister @ingram there were a lot of title changes, but it was changing "principle" to "staff" that was the most egregious, as "staff engineer" just sounds like "general shit-kicker" in Australian. Hence the localisation joke.

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              @tarkasteve @Tubemeister @ingram "Staff" is by far the funniest to me, because "staff engineer" is… uh, pretty poorly-defined, actually (I've never worked a place with "staff" in the standard engineer title hierarchy, but it typically slots in either in place of or above "principal" in the "extremely senior engineer" range), but always a prestigious title, while the term "staff" in *every* other context is dismissive. Your staff is, like, your janitors.

              (To be clear, in case it's not, I think this attitude falls somewhere between "ill-advised" and "psychopathic". Your office will stop functioning just as quickly with no janitors as with no white-collar denizens.)

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              • W whbboyd@infosec.exchange

                @tarkasteve @Tubemeister @ingram "Staff" is by far the funniest to me, because "staff engineer" is… uh, pretty poorly-defined, actually (I've never worked a place with "staff" in the standard engineer title hierarchy, but it typically slots in either in place of or above "principal" in the "extremely senior engineer" range), but always a prestigious title, while the term "staff" in *every* other context is dismissive. Your staff is, like, your janitors.

                (To be clear, in case it's not, I think this attitude falls somewhere between "ill-advised" and "psychopathic". Your office will stop functioning just as quickly with no janitors as with no white-collar denizens.)

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                @whbboyd @tarkasteve @Tubemeister Where I am now "staff" means the doers and not the decision makers (Board, EGMs etc).

                I've found US folk get very particular about titles and hierarchy. Their tech gods (Senior Tech Fellows) are not used to being called out by pleb engineers either, which makes it a bit of a sport here. Being competent in more than one area confusing many US eng too.

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                • W whbboyd@infosec.exchange

                  @tarkasteve @Tubemeister @ingram "Staff" is by far the funniest to me, because "staff engineer" is… uh, pretty poorly-defined, actually (I've never worked a place with "staff" in the standard engineer title hierarchy, but it typically slots in either in place of or above "principal" in the "extremely senior engineer" range), but always a prestigious title, while the term "staff" in *every* other context is dismissive. Your staff is, like, your janitors.

                  (To be clear, in case it's not, I think this attitude falls somewhere between "ill-advised" and "psychopathic". Your office will stop functioning just as quickly with no janitors as with no white-collar denizens.)

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                  @whbboyd @tarkasteve @ingram “staff” is the cleaners indeed where I’m at.

                  And as a rule of thumb they’re pretty similar to us lot what keeps the servers running in that we’re invisible unless we fuck up or otherwise don’t do our job.

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                  • ingram@mastodon.socialI ingram@mastodon.social

                    @whbboyd @tarkasteve @Tubemeister Where I am now "staff" means the doers and not the decision makers (Board, EGMs etc).

                    I've found US folk get very particular about titles and hierarchy. Their tech gods (Senior Tech Fellows) are not used to being called out by pleb engineers either, which makes it a bit of a sport here. Being competent in more than one area confusing many US eng too.

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                    @ingram @whbboyd @tarkasteve I’m not even entirely sure what my official title is. Probably something boring like “unix engineer”. Place is too small and flat charted to go full on “special senior fluffer to the fellow” or whatever, and I like it that way.

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                    • ingram@mastodon.socialI ingram@mastodon.social

                      @whbboyd @tarkasteve @Tubemeister Where I am now "staff" means the doers and not the decision makers (Board, EGMs etc).

                      I've found US folk get very particular about titles and hierarchy. Their tech gods (Senior Tech Fellows) are not used to being called out by pleb engineers either, which makes it a bit of a sport here. Being competent in more than one area confusing many US eng too.

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                      @ingram @whbboyd @Tubemeister Which brings us to the 'en_US' part of the joke; there's a certain type of org where everyone thinks they're "Senior VP of Development" or whatever. Movie studios are famous for it.

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                      • tarkasteve@hachyderm.ioT tarkasteve@hachyderm.io

                        @ingram @whbboyd @Tubemeister Which brings us to the 'en_US' part of the joke; there's a certain type of org where everyone thinks they're "Senior VP of Development" or whatever. Movie studios are famous for it.

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                        @ingram @whbboyd @Tubemeister "Tyrone: Being #3 in Al-queda is like being a "creative vice president" at a Hollywood studio. There are dozens of them ... and they are expendable."

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                        • tarkasteve@hachyderm.ioT tarkasteve@hachyderm.io

                          So I recently discovered that a shitpost I made about job titles on the company network is now evidence in a court case. This may be my finest hour.

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                          @tarkasteve gold.

                          the date of the post and your name and the coincidence of the more well known steve smith also being lets say deactivated during that period just adds a nice bit of spice too.

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                          • tarkasteve@hachyderm.ioT tarkasteve@hachyderm.io

                            So I recently discovered that a shitpost I made about job titles on the company network is now evidence in a court case. This may be my finest hour.

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                            @tarkasteve @davidgerard Boonie!

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                            • tarkasteve@hachyderm.ioT tarkasteve@hachyderm.io

                              So I recently discovered that a shitpost I made about job titles on the company network is now evidence in a court case. This may be my finest hour.

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                              @tarkasteve i am desperate to know more lmao this is awesome

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