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Ha, this is word for word exactly my first experience on my first visit to Europe (Austria) as a 14 year old.

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  • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

    Ha, this is word for word exactly my first experience on my first visit to Europe (Austria) as a 14 year old.

    Except it happened almost every day. I was there to visit the UN.

    They also introduced me to a former secretary general of the UN, a known Nazi. What a wild time.

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    @skinnylatte 100% relatable

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    • arratoon@beige.partyA arratoon@beige.party

      @skinnylatte You for introduced to Kurt Waldheim? Oof.

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      @arratoon haha yes, it was very confusing why they thought he was a role model

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      • happyfishmedia@cloudisland.nzH happyfishmedia@cloudisland.nz

        @skinnylatte 100% relatable

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        @Happyfishmedia there’s a guy here who’s often in my comments about how he doesn’t understand why I don’t leave shithole California for.. Germany

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        • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

          @Happyfishmedia there’s a guy here who’s often in my comments about how he doesn’t understand why I don’t leave shithole California for.. Germany

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          @skinnylatte @Happyfishmedia

          I'm glad that his comments haven't federated their way to my server when I look at your posts. He sounds insufferable.

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          • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

            Ha, this is word for word exactly my first experience on my first visit to Europe (Austria) as a 14 year old.

            Except it happened almost every day. I was there to visit the UN.

            They also introduced me to a former secretary general of the UN, a known Nazi. What a wild time.

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            Every time I post stuff like this someone goes yeah but it’s that place, this place is better

            Yeah it also happened to me in this and that place

            As a person who is not American, I’ll never believe it when someone says ‘America is more racist’ if you won’t even let people tell you about their experiences with your countries but you apparently know all about being a minority in America as well

            Subtoot for a very large group of people here

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            • gbargoud@masto.nycG gbargoud@masto.nyc

              @skinnylatte @Happyfishmedia

              I'm glad that his comments haven't federated their way to my server when I look at your posts. He sounds insufferable.

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              @gbargoud @Happyfishmedia yeah it’s literally on anything neutral about where I live

              I post jobs that are in California and he will be like ‘too bad California is a shithole and nobody I know will want to move there’

              I only engaged the first couple of times and stopped when he said

              ‘Immigrants to the U.S. are lower quality in IQ compared to immigrants to Europe’

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              • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                Every time I post stuff like this someone goes yeah but it’s that place, this place is better

                Yeah it also happened to me in this and that place

                As a person who is not American, I’ll never believe it when someone says ‘America is more racist’ if you won’t even let people tell you about their experiences with your countries but you apparently know all about being a minority in America as well

                Subtoot for a very large group of people here

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                @skinnylatte White people in the US love talking about Scandinavian liberalism, but Iceland is the only place I have ever been denied service in multiple businesses because I walked in with a Turkish friend. It was shocking. If people talked to us at all it was to warn me not to bring my friend to the public swimming facilities with me.

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                • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                  Ha, this is word for word exactly my first experience on my first visit to Europe (Austria) as a 14 year old.

                  Except it happened almost every day. I was there to visit the UN.

                  They also introduced me to a former secretary general of the UN, a known Nazi. What a wild time.

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                  @skinnylatte If I had to guess, as a German, this story feels very much like the 90s. (Not saying, it's not happening anymore, but I think it's less common.)

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                  • carrideen@c18.masto.hostC carrideen@c18.masto.host

                    @skinnylatte White people in the US love talking about Scandinavian liberalism, but Iceland is the only place I have ever been denied service in multiple businesses because I walked in with a Turkish friend. It was shocking. If people talked to us at all it was to warn me not to bring my friend to the public swimming facilities with me.

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                    @carrideen I’ve had some incredibly unsettling experiences over just four days in Copenhagen. But I’ve been told that it’s a post racial society and if anything happened to me there it must be all my fault

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                    • rainerzufall_le@mastodon.socialR rainerzufall_le@mastodon.social

                      @skinnylatte If I had to guess, as a German, this story feels very much like the 90s. (Not saying, it's not happening anymore, but I think it's less common.)

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                      @rainerzufall_le mid 00s for me

                      Still too many fucking ni haos on the streets today (yes even in the major cities with lots of immigrants)

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                      • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                        @Happyfishmedia there’s a guy here who’s often in my comments about how he doesn’t understand why I don’t leave shithole California for.. Germany

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                        @skinnylatte 🙄 when I lived in Germany, I worked for an organisation that had an anti-racism focus... It was set up by someone who later was an SS officer. It was a fascinating story that I was reminded of when a movie about him was randomly on TV .
                        https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/kurt-gerstein

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                        • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                          @rainerzufall_le mid 00s for me

                          Still too many fucking ni haos on the streets today (yes even in the major cities with lots of immigrants)

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                          @skinnylatte My feeling is that this overt racism, mocking appearences and languages got less overt between 2005-2010.
                          The ni haos haven't gotten less

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                          • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                            @carrideen I’ve had some incredibly unsettling experiences over just four days in Copenhagen. But I’ve been told that it’s a post racial society and if anything happened to me there it must be all my fault

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                            @skinnylatte Yikes. My Turkish friend was in Reykjavik all summer for a research fellowship and reached a point where he just stopped leaving his apartment for anything. I cooked for him while he was visiting and ended up leaving him a bunch of frozen meals because he stopped trying going to restaurants. If I got us takeout by myself we could eat.

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                              @skinnylatte Yikes. My Turkish friend was in Reykjavik all summer for a research fellowship and reached a point where he just stopped leaving his apartment for anything. I cooked for him while he was visiting and ended up leaving him a bunch of frozen meals because he stopped trying going to restaurants. If I got us takeout by myself we could eat.

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                              @carrideen yep. 100% guarantee the people who defend this will say ‘your friend should have become fluent in the language in 2 months’ because apparently not speaking the language means they can treat people inhumanely.

                              I very much dislike the ‘integrate or be ignored or dismissed’ perspective, they didn’t do that when they colonized the world.

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                              • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                                Every time I post stuff like this someone goes yeah but it’s that place, this place is better

                                Yeah it also happened to me in this and that place

                                As a person who is not American, I’ll never believe it when someone says ‘America is more racist’ if you won’t even let people tell you about their experiences with your countries but you apparently know all about being a minority in America as well

                                Subtoot for a very large group of people here

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                                @skinnylatte I never imagined it would happen in the ¨tolerant¨ Netherlands, where there are citizens by birth with Asian ancestry. It happens even there.

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                                • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                                  @rainerzufall_le mid 00s for me

                                  Still too many fucking ni haos on the streets today (yes even in the major cities with lots of immigrants)

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                                  @skinnylatte @rainerzufall_le
                                  I was in Berlin near an election, i want to guess about 2014, and there were racist and sexist campaign signs up all over the place with hand drawn graffiti to make them even worse, and at least once a large group of very loud men came to a public square to sing their sieg heils - to most people's disamusement at least. Still, it was very unsettling
                                  I was there ten days and that happened where i was eating. I've never seen anything like that happen in forty plus years of living in the US

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                                  • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                                    Ha, this is word for word exactly my first experience on my first visit to Europe (Austria) as a 14 year old.

                                    Except it happened almost every day. I was there to visit the UN.

                                    They also introduced me to a former secretary general of the UN, a known Nazi. What a wild time.

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                                    @skinnylatte I think this is the kind of shit you can only get up to in a post-violence zero-tolerance society.

                                    Like, only if you have zero fear of the minority kid coming over to immediately kick your ass, would anyone be so bold in their racist bullshit.

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                                      @skinnylatte I think this is the kind of shit you can only get up to in a post-violence zero-tolerance society.

                                      Like, only if you have zero fear of the minority kid coming over to immediately kick your ass, would anyone be so bold in their racist bullshit.

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                                      @pencilears I’m certain the minority kid would be deported even if they were from there, if this happened. The power dynamics are very different

                                      Also, many ‘normal’ people defend that type of behavior. They’ll be like ‘oh what were you expecting, bunch of Asian kids standing around TOGETHER just asking for it’

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                                      • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                                        Ha, this is word for word exactly my first experience on my first visit to Europe (Austria) as a 14 year old.

                                        Except it happened almost every day. I was there to visit the UN.

                                        They also introduced me to a former secretary general of the UN, a known Nazi. What a wild time.

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                                        @skinnylatte Good lord

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                                        • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                                          @carrideen yep. 100% guarantee the people who defend this will say ‘your friend should have become fluent in the language in 2 months’ because apparently not speaking the language means they can treat people inhumanely.

                                          I very much dislike the ‘integrate or be ignored or dismissed’ perspective, they didn’t do that when they colonized the world.

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                                          @skinnylatte In Copenhagen (as a Danish friend used to tell me) the whole hygge aesthetic (let's be cozy and not prickly and easy to get along with) gets weaponized against immigrants, who can be perceived as refusing or standing in the way of the rest of "us" having a comfortable time.

                                          (One of the things I love about NYC is that no one feels entitled to be cozy here!)

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