This picture from https://studio8502.ca/@mos_8502/116047090400689262

[martinvermeer@fediscience.org]

@timbray It seems to be recursive.

> This rule also applies to you if you were born to someone who became Canadian because of these rule changes.

[equinox@chaos.social]

@timbray if your ancestors/family was persecuted by the actual previous nazis, you also have a right to German citizenship. It's becoming hard to prove though; of course they destroyed a lot of the records in '45. Might still help quite a few US people, considering how many people fled to there.

The "irony" in this becoming relevant for a new nazi situation is… _something_

[debcha@saturation.social]

@timbray I think what that comic is missing is that ‘Canada’ is a nation as well as a place — in 1830 it was a place and not yet a nation, and Canadian citizenship (with jus solis and jus sanguinis pathways) didn’t exist until 1947. So you can’t daisy-chain your Canadian ancestry back past that point. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Canadian_nationality_law

[onepict@chaos.social]

@timbray annoyingly my great grandfather became a US citizen, if only he'd picked Canada.

Only a maternal grand uncle emigrated to Canada. His family is still in Vancouver Island.

Still France is a safe enough distance from the UK and the US for now.

[debcha@saturation.social]

@timbray Lots of people in New England have Canadian ancestors, so I understand this as like, my friend A with one grandparent born in Canada in 1950 is now automatically Canadian, so is his ten year old kid — he just needs the documents. But my friend J whose grandparents left Canada in 1940, is not a Canadian by descent. (But IANa (immigration) lawyer, just have a lot of experience with immigration systems.)

[davecb@hachyderm.io]

@timbray @rwg I groveled around and found some parliamentary reports up to 2025 at https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ircc/documents/pdf/english/corporate/publications-manuals/annual-report-parliament-immigration-2025.pdf

They (carefully?) don't say what the quotas were: mere citizens have to spreadsheet that ourselves.

[timbray@cosocial.ca]

@davecb @rwg Ah, good. Quoting from that:

“In 2024, 483,640 immigrants were admitted as permanent residents, in line with targets set out in the Government of Canada’s Immigration Levels Planvi. Of these, 244,965 identified as women, 238,650 as men, and 30 as another gender.

In 2023, a total of 471,808 immigrants were admitted as permanent residents, which indicates a 2.5% increase from 2023 to 2024.”

[crenquis@mstdn.io]

@timbray Oooh, grandma's French Canadian side goes back to the 1600's...
I better start practicing Oh Canada , eh
(When I moved to California most people thought I was Canadian; or some other unspecified furiner, anyhows)

[rwg@aoir.social]

@timbray @davecb the issue is that the points system has really tightened up in the past couple years. I've got a good job as a professor but I cannot get PR. My score is too low. A few years back, I understand, it was far, far easier.

[davecb@hachyderm.io]

@rwg @timbray Yes, but as usual with governments, the tails wag the dog (:-))

As a result of Mr Trump going after universities and foreign students, especially Canadian students, the door swung back open. For example, in https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/study-canada/graduate-student.html PhD students are guaranteed a go/no-go decision in two weeks.

For yourself, reach out quickly to an immigration lawyer, as Canada has announced they are converting large numbers of work-visa recipients to the PR stream this year. You fall into one of the categories they mention, so I'd try jumping on it while it's still a priority.

Governments are slow, slow, slow ... until they become lightening-fast.
(Then they go back to slow again.)