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  3. Once you realize it’s not “age verification”, but actually “identity verification”, then it’s easy to understand that the real goal is “papers, please” for the entire internet.

Once you realize it’s not “age verification”, but actually “identity verification”, then it’s easy to understand that the real goal is “papers, please” for the entire internet.

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  • mhoye@cosocial.caM This user is from outside of this forum
    mhoye@cosocial.caM This user is from outside of this forum
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    Once you realize it’s not “age verification”, but actually “identity verification”, then it’s easy to understand that the real goal is “papers, please” for the entire internet.

    wendythedruid@thistlenfern.orgW libramoon@mastodon.socialL txtx@mastodon.socialT robloblaw@mastodon.socialR rythur@mastodon.socialR 11 Replies Last reply
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    • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

      Once you realize it’s not “age verification”, but actually “identity verification”, then it’s easy to understand that the real goal is “papers, please” for the entire internet.

      wendythedruid@thistlenfern.orgW This user is from outside of this forum
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      @mhoye classically yes that’s exactly what it is

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      • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

        Once you realize it’s not “age verification”, but actually “identity verification”, then it’s easy to understand that the real goal is “papers, please” for the entire internet.

        libramoon@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
        libramoon@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @mhoye

        big tech creates poison social media to trap kids and ends up killing some
        instead of going after the sociopath perps, let's keep kids from the friendships and information they have been finding, and make everyone prove their identities, no matter how that might hurt them

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        • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

          Once you realize it’s not “age verification”, but actually “identity verification”, then it’s easy to understand that the real goal is “papers, please” for the entire internet.

          txtx@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
          txtx@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
          txtx@mastodon.social
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          @mhoye Unpopular opinion:

          Identity verification isn't so unattractive in 2026 — social media is destroying democracies via anonymous armies of bot people steered by aggressive foreign actors like Putin and Musk.

          The libertarian model that the Internet was built on is failing societies.

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          • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

            Once you realize it’s not “age verification”, but actually “identity verification”, then it’s easy to understand that the real goal is “papers, please” for the entire internet.

            robloblaw@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
            robloblaw@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @mhoye
            I think it is better to describe these schemes as "surveillance and censorship programs".

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            • txtx@mastodon.socialT txtx@mastodon.social

              @mhoye Unpopular opinion:

              Identity verification isn't so unattractive in 2026 — social media is destroying democracies via anonymous armies of bot people steered by aggressive foreign actors like Putin and Musk.

              The libertarian model that the Internet was built on is failing societies.

              dalias@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
              dalias@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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              @txtx @mhoye Rightfully unpopular. This is not a libertarian position but an anarchist and antifascist one. It's not Ayn Rand bros who are harmed by needing to show ID to participate in public life. It's queer youth, undocumented folks, unhoused folks, dissidents, ppl living under regimes that don't want them having international contacts, etc. who this shit harms.

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              • libramoon@mastodon.socialL libramoon@mastodon.social

                @mhoye

                big tech creates poison social media to trap kids and ends up killing some
                instead of going after the sociopath perps, let's keep kids from the friendships and information they have been finding, and make everyone prove their identities, no matter how that might hurt them

                dalias@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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                RE: https://hachyderm.io/@dalias/115969305010426018

                @libramoon @mhoye This. 👆

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                • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                  Once you realize it’s not “age verification”, but actually “identity verification”, then it’s easy to understand that the real goal is “papers, please” for the entire internet.

                  rythur@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
                  rythur@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
                  rythur@mastodon.social
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                  @mhoye

                  We're being bullied by neurotic creeps with too much money

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                  • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                    Once you realize it’s not “age verification”, but actually “identity verification”, then it’s easy to understand that the real goal is “papers, please” for the entire internet.

                    flashmobofone@mastodon.artF This user is from outside of this forum
                    flashmobofone@mastodon.artF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @mhoye No it isn't.

                    They already have all of your info. We know this because the FBI just inadvertently revealed it by producing video evidence publicly that wasn't supposed to exist.

                    They have your info and they are feeding it to your government freely and without a warrant.

                    ID verification is just a simple means of proving you confirmed someone isn't a child.

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                    • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                      Once you realize it’s not “age verification”, but actually “identity verification”, then it’s easy to understand that the real goal is “papers, please” for the entire internet.

                      fishidwardrobe@social.tchncs.deF This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @mhoye the "goal" of a system is what it does. no matter what the actual intent was.

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                      • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                        @txtx @mhoye Rightfully unpopular. This is not a libertarian position but an anarchist and antifascist one. It's not Ayn Rand bros who are harmed by needing to show ID to participate in public life. It's queer youth, undocumented folks, unhoused folks, dissidents, ppl living under regimes that don't want them having international contacts, etc. who this shit harms.

                        txtx@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @dalias @mhoye Facebook & X are anarchist/anti fascist? I don't agree.

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                        • txtx@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @passenger @mhoye Those worst people are mostly bots or fake. Rarely are they using their real names. ICE wear masks.

                          The ones who go public: they should be in court facing anti hate laws. But instead they're protected because they don't even live in my country. X and Facebook need to be banned where I am to fix this.

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                          • flashmobofone@mastodon.artF flashmobofone@mastodon.art

                            @mhoye No it isn't.

                            They already have all of your info. We know this because the FBI just inadvertently revealed it by producing video evidence publicly that wasn't supposed to exist.

                            They have your info and they are feeding it to your government freely and without a warrant.

                            ID verification is just a simple means of proving you confirmed someone isn't a child.

                            charogg@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @FlashMobOfOne @mhoye According to your logic, why they would need to check it isn't a child if they already know?

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                            • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                              Once you realize it’s not “age verification”, but actually “identity verification”, then it’s easy to understand that the real goal is “papers, please” for the entire internet.

                              brouhaha@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @mhoye
                              Your papers are not in order.

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                              • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                                Once you realize it’s not “age verification”, but actually “identity verification”, then it’s easy to understand that the real goal is “papers, please” for the entire internet.

                                chuckmcmanis@chaos.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @mhoye Yup, they are tired of not being able to tell whose a dog and whose a human on the Internet 😃

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                                • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                                  Once you realize it’s not “age verification”, but actually “identity verification”, then it’s easy to understand that the real goal is “papers, please” for the entire internet.

                                  phogl@social.cologneP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @mhoye not defending the age verification at all or any of that shit...
                                  But at least they designed in Europe the upcoming EUDI Wallet (digital wallet) they now want to use for that in a way that you can for example just disclose "yup, I'm over 18" not more of your personal information

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                                  • txtx@mastodon.socialT txtx@mastodon.social

                                    @passenger @mhoye Those worst people are mostly bots or fake. Rarely are they using their real names. ICE wear masks.

                                    The ones who go public: they should be in court facing anti hate laws. But instead they're protected because they don't even live in my country. X and Facebook need to be banned where I am to fix this.

                                    jdb_env@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                    jdb_env@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                    jdb_env@mastodon.social
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                                    @txtx @passenger @mhoye
                                    People need to understand the harm done to people and society by gafam.

                                    The only account I had was on linkedin, to have professional visibility.
                                    But this too is populated by [boosted] "influencers" and "followers".

                                    My way to connect with ppl makes all this boring to use.

                                    I find mastodon here more convenient to link with ppl having the same interests.

                                    Not following and not leading.
                                    No ads. Perfect for me.

                                    Facebook : fuck off, I have enough friends.

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                                    • txtx@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #18

                                      @passenger @mhoye The UK/Brexit are perfect examples of foreign dictators influencing citizens via social media disinformation campaigns, anonymous & bot accounts etc.

                                      This is not something I want to see further replicated anywhere in the EU.

                                      Being an 'anti-facist' on X is a contradiction. It's like hating on Mickey Mouse at Disneyland.

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                                      • brouhaha@mastodon.socialB brouhaha@mastodon.social

                                        @mhoye
                                        Your papers are not in order.

                                        europlus@social.europlus.zoneE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #19

                                        @brouhaha @mhoye can you explain this gap in your social media posting history?

                                        You seem to have forgotten to inform us of this e-mail you’ve been using since 2015…

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                                        • europlus@social.europlus.zoneE europlus@social.europlus.zone

                                          @brouhaha @mhoye can you explain this gap in your social media posting history?

                                          You seem to have forgotten to inform us of this e-mail you’ve been using since 2015…

                                          axel_hartmann@digitalcourage.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                                          axel_hartmann@digitalcourage.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #20

                                          @europlus @brouhaha @mhoye - with the proposed US visa / visa-waiver requirements, any of these would invalidate your "immigration status" as a visitor, putting you at real risk of indefinite incarceration at an ICE concentration camp.

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