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I have been watching this story simmer for several days.

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  • pthane@toot.walesP pthane@toot.wales

    @futurebird Agreed. And no-one should be able to claim, "It wasn't me, the AI did it".

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    @pthane @futurebird

    I was only following orders 2.0

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    • cmsdengl@mas.toC cmsdengl@mas.to

      @futurebird At some point a War Crimes tribunal will need to rule that the person pressing return on an AI killing decisions is the person responsible for a War Crime. We need an AI weapons treaty now

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      @cmsdengl @futurebird

      I think we already have those laws on the books. See Nuremberg. It’s not different if AI is issuing and executing the orders.

      Researchers have been warning about the danger of this shit for what? How many years now?

      Lastly, there’s that old line from IBM, that a machine cannot be making managerial decisions

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      • glasspusher@beige.partyG glasspusher@beige.party

        @futurebird I think his speeches sound llm generated because a bad speechwriter would use an llm

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        @glasspusher @futurebird

        Consider for a moment that LLMs sound like godless soulless machines because that’s what they are.

        Hegseth and the filthy epstein Society he is a member of our current business and political elites have rejected the basis for human community. They are simply bloodthirsty knuckle, dragging dominance hierarchy seen throughout the Animal Kingdom, that humans are uniquely capable of tearing apart

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        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

          RE: https://infosec.exchange/@hacks4pancakes/116192434654015384

          I have been watching this story simmer for several days. I've been wary of it. It fits too neatly into the criticisms and warnings many of us have been raising. But it's starting to look like, yes, they are using an LLM to make critical decisions.

          At the same time I have heard parts of speeches from the US Secretary of War.* I have been dismayed by his shallow thinking. It doesn't help that his speeches also sound like they are also composed by an LLM.

          *formerly Defense

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          @futurebird
          I am terrified by idiots using OpenAI to explore war.
          Based on the reinforcement algorithm used by OpenAI, the feedback would suggest, in ever increasing amplification, that their "ideas are really good", "what a smart way to proceed" …

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            @EricLawton @futurebird
            At least a hundred years....
            Until the last person directly affected and their children are gone.

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            • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

              My disgust for war, for the military, is not the result of being sheltered.

              I hate your wars because I know exactly what they are and how when violence occurs it reverberates for generations.

              Someone has lost a daughter and with her many of their reasons for living. What grim task will they devote themselves to?

              What would you do, Pete, if they killed your family? Do you think you are the only person who loves their children?

              I think you must.

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              @futurebird i'm pretty sure he has no love for his children though, except inasmuch as they are "his" children
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              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                Right wing war hawk commentators are saying that hitting a civilian target, a school filled with little girls is "good strategy, actually" we, the soft-handed peace-nicks are simply not smart enough to understand the strategic power of this action.

                But, if the Department of war won't say it remains unclear if this atrocity is based on incompetence or dim-witted malice.

                update: We can infer that they "missed"
                https://shakedown.social/@AAronL1968/116193541496761440

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                @futurebird I think they're lying even blaming it on "accident." There were two bombings, 40 minutes apart.

                #Via Caio Almendra
                @caioalmendra
                8:30 AM · Mar 8, 2026

                "This school had many daughters of military officers and soldiers. The idea was to attract them to the school, strike it to draw in rescuers and relatives, and then strike it again to kill them."

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                Al Jazeera investigation: Iran girls’ school targeting likely ‘deliberate’

                Al Jazeera investigation raises questions over deadliest single attack of war that killed 165 schoolgirls and staff.

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                  @EricLawton @futurebird

                  Same as any abuser who beats and controls others and thinks they'll "love" him if they would just acquiesce to the "rightness" of their own abuse. And then is shocked when a target pushes back.

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                  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                    RE: https://infosec.exchange/@hacks4pancakes/116192434654015384

                    I have been watching this story simmer for several days. I've been wary of it. It fits too neatly into the criticisms and warnings many of us have been raising. But it's starting to look like, yes, they are using an LLM to make critical decisions.

                    At the same time I have heard parts of speeches from the US Secretary of War.* I have been dismayed by his shallow thinking. It doesn't help that his speeches also sound like they are also composed by an LLM.

                    *formerly Defense

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                    @futurebird ngl I am beginning to wonder if the school was deliberately targeted in order to draw all attention away from >waves hands< everything else going on with US aggression

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                    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                      His speeches sound LLM generated because they are filled with so many cliches and empty sentences. And because they sound nothing like they way he speaks extemporaneousnessly. Of course this could just be a bad speech writer. Or it could be that when your ideas are bad no words can fix it.

                      The Department of War will not even say if they missed or not. Did they *want* to hit that school? If not the school then what?

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                      @futurebird I think they took a page from Israel’s book and let AI choose the targets with no human oversight. Which in itself says a lot about their moral reasoning.

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