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  3. it's especially funny seeing the "aren't you worried about getting left behind?" argument about AI, speaking as a retrotech person.

it's especially funny seeing the "aren't you worried about getting left behind?" argument about AI, speaking as a retrotech person.

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  • foone@digipres.clubF This user is from outside of this forum
    foone@digipres.clubF This user is from outside of this forum
    foone@digipres.club
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    it's especially funny seeing the "aren't you worried about getting left behind?" argument about AI, speaking as a retrotech person.

    Like, come on. I'm still writing software for DOS and Windows 95. What even is "behind" at this point?

    brooke@bikeshed.vibber.netB lykrast@eldritch.cafeL suzannealdrich@hachyderm.ioS chrisgervais@hachyderm.ioC stepland@mamot.frS 9 Replies Last reply
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    • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

      it's especially funny seeing the "aren't you worried about getting left behind?" argument about AI, speaking as a retrotech person.

      Like, come on. I'm still writing software for DOS and Windows 95. What even is "behind" at this point?

      brooke@bikeshed.vibber.netB This user is from outside of this forum
      brooke@bikeshed.vibber.netB This user is from outside of this forum
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      @foone I'm not concerned about being left behind, but I do worry about the people who are going whole-hog into outsourcing their cognitive capacity to a venture-capital backed bubble economy. I think a lot of them are going to be in for a rough shock when the prices go up by an order of magnitude and many of the vendors stop updating their models.

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      • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

        it's especially funny seeing the "aren't you worried about getting left behind?" argument about AI, speaking as a retrotech person.

        Like, come on. I'm still writing software for DOS and Windows 95. What even is "behind" at this point?

        lykrast@eldritch.cafeL This user is from outside of this forum
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        @foone behind is where the butt is!

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        • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

          it's especially funny seeing the "aren't you worried about getting left behind?" argument about AI, speaking as a retrotech person.

          Like, come on. I'm still writing software for DOS and Windows 95. What even is "behind" at this point?

          suzannealdrich@hachyderm.ioS This user is from outside of this forum
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          @foone If by "left behind" they mean possessing an undamaged neural network capable of engineering or creating anything at all, sign me up!

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          • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

            it's especially funny seeing the "aren't you worried about getting left behind?" argument about AI, speaking as a retrotech person.

            Like, come on. I'm still writing software for DOS and Windows 95. What even is "behind" at this point?

            chrisgervais@hachyderm.ioC This user is from outside of this forum
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            @foone I’m excited about using APIs people left behind 30 years ago. Looking at you, QuickDraw GX Collection Manager (which is actually a super handy API if you’re on System 7.1 or greater)

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            • brooke@bikeshed.vibber.netB This user is from outside of this forum
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              @sif @foone *nod* deterministic code generation is good, actually

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              • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                it's especially funny seeing the "aren't you worried about getting left behind?" argument about AI, speaking as a retrotech person.

                Like, come on. I'm still writing software for DOS and Windows 95. What even is "behind" at this point?

                stepland@mamot.frS This user is from outside of this forum
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                @foone the goal is to go so obscure the only piece of information online about the system you're trying to write software for is a 12 minute video filmed by a retired autistic person shot under piss-yellow lighting with no editing or commentary whatsoever

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                • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                  it's especially funny seeing the "aren't you worried about getting left behind?" argument about AI, speaking as a retrotech person.

                  Like, come on. I'm still writing software for DOS and Windows 95. What even is "behind" at this point?

                  eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @foone it's such an enterprise brained thing to say. The type of thing you'd imagine someone who switches frameworks to make websites every couple years because there's a hot new thing that's different from the old thing and you wouldn't wanna be left behind do you? Meanwhile the 6 old things still all work fine actually

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                  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    @foone it's such an enterprise brained thing to say. The type of thing you'd imagine someone who switches frameworks to make websites every couple years because there's a hot new thing that's different from the old thing and you wouldn't wanna be left behind do you? Meanwhile the 6 old things still all work fine actually

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                    @eniko @foone
                    It all reinforces my decision[1] to focus on an old language that can be held entirely in ones own head.

                    [1]Well, my AuDHD chose for me but the point stands....

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                    • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                      it's especially funny seeing the "aren't you worried about getting left behind?" argument about AI, speaking as a retrotech person.

                      Like, come on. I'm still writing software for DOS and Windows 95. What even is "behind" at this point?

                      heathen_cat@furs.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @foone
                      There's a rapture analogy they're trying to make, but man all my friends are going to still be here after the AI rapture. The left behind group are the *cool kids.*

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                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        @foone it's such an enterprise brained thing to say. The type of thing you'd imagine someone who switches frameworks to make websites every couple years because there's a hot new thing that's different from the old thing and you wouldn't wanna be left behind do you? Meanwhile the 6 old things still all work fine actually

                        swetland@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @eniko @foone It amazes me how little people seem to value things that just keep working and will not need you to waste a ton of time compensating for all the bit-rot since the last time you touched it.

                        That's one of the reasons C is still my go-to language, for all its warts, and I'm extremely wary of picking up unnecessary dependencies.

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                        • stepland@mamot.frS stepland@mamot.fr

                          @foone the goal is to go so obscure the only piece of information online about the system you're trying to write software for is a 12 minute video filmed by a retired autistic person shot under piss-yellow lighting with no editing or commentary whatsoever

                          sunseille@shelter.moeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @Stepland @foone is this the new "someone asked the same question as me on stack overflow, oh wait this is my post"

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                          • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                            it's especially funny seeing the "aren't you worried about getting left behind?" argument about AI, speaking as a retrotech person.

                            Like, come on. I'm still writing software for DOS and Windows 95. What even is "behind" at this point?

                            mrfoostang@foostang.xyzM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @foone@digipres.club And given where we're apparently going, it's best to be left behind anyhow.
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                            • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                              it's especially funny seeing the "aren't you worried about getting left behind?" argument about AI, speaking as a retrotech person.

                              Like, come on. I'm still writing software for DOS and Windows 95. What even is "behind" at this point?

                              pikhq@social.treehouse.systemsP This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @foone the only concerning thing is if i can get a job without making extensive use of that particular new hotness, but some things are bad enough that maybe it's better finding some new career

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                              • pikhq@social.treehouse.systemsP pikhq@social.treehouse.systems

                                @foone the only concerning thing is if i can get a job without making extensive use of that particular new hotness, but some things are bad enough that maybe it's better finding some new career

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                                @pikhq @foone everyone still seems to be wanting applicants to have experience with the new garbage

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