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  3. This rather cursed screenshot was sent to us, and we regret to inform you that quite a lot of people seem to believe this myth, and related myths surrounding the vulva.

This rather cursed screenshot was sent to us, and we regret to inform you that quite a lot of people seem to believe this myth, and related myths surrounding the vulva.

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  • delawen@floss.socialD delawen@floss.social

    @lumi @vagina_museum Probably not cis women, we can just check ourselves before and after losing the virginity and see that's not true.

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    #8

    @delawen @vagina_museum yeah, definitely

    i imagine this could also really mess up the self image of a cis girl that has not had sex before 😞

    there's also the built-in assumption that it's somehow bad for a girl or woman not to be a virgin. come on, ugh

    it's all-around just an awful thing to say and believe

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    • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

      @vagina_museum people ... actually believe this stuff? ​​

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      #9
      @lumi @vagina_museum You better believe it 😞
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      • vagina_museum@masto.aiV vagina_museum@masto.ai

        This rather cursed screenshot was sent to us, and we regret to inform you that quite a lot of people seem to believe this myth, and related myths surrounding the vulva. These myths been around for literal millennia, even though there is no rooting whatsoever in reality. Let's take a little look at the history of misogyny and racism inherent in this belief...

        h5e@tech.lgbtH This user is from outside of this forum
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        #10

        @vagina_museum tell me you don't fuck without telling me you don't fuck vibes lol

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        • vagina_museum@masto.aiV vagina_museum@masto.ai

          However, what is clear is that a hell of a lot of European men since Ancient Greece had some pretty gnarly attitudes about how the appearance of the vulva said something about the character of the person.

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          #11

          The general prevailing belief was that clitorises and larger labia minora were not really something that Nice White Women had. A vulva that wasn't "an innie" (a phrase not used in history) indicated some sort of masculinity - perhaps lesbianism, perhaps promiscuity, perhaps being a bad wife.

          Larger labia, to a European physician for a hell of a lot of history, basically indicated that it belonged to a woman who transgressed patriarchy in some way.

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          • vagina_museum@masto.aiV vagina_museum@masto.ai

            The general prevailing belief was that clitorises and larger labia minora were not really something that Nice White Women had. A vulva that wasn't "an innie" (a phrase not used in history) indicated some sort of masculinity - perhaps lesbianism, perhaps promiscuity, perhaps being a bad wife.

            Larger labia, to a European physician for a hell of a lot of history, basically indicated that it belonged to a woman who transgressed patriarchy in some way.

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            #12

            There was a hefty degree of racism to this belief too. European physicians and authors believed that larger labia were something that African women had, not Nice White Women.

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            • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

              @delawen @vagina_museum yeah, definitely

              i imagine this could also really mess up the self image of a cis girl that has not had sex before 😞

              there's also the built-in assumption that it's somehow bad for a girl or woman not to be a virgin. come on, ugh

              it's all-around just an awful thing to say and believe

              delawen@floss.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
              delawen@floss.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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              #13

              @lumi @vagina_museum On the "bright" side, I know some women with a very high body count that could fool these idiots to believe they are absolute virgins... As if someone wanted to do that.

              Maybe I'm old enough to value experience now. Or I have enough confidence in myself that I don't care being compared with previous partners. That person is fucking me now, and it is a bonus if they come with enough experience to know what they do! Go get them girl!

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              • vagina_museum@masto.aiV vagina_museum@masto.ai

                There was a hefty degree of racism to this belief too. European physicians and authors believed that larger labia were something that African women had, not Nice White Women.

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                #14

                Saartjie Baartman, a Black Khoisan woman from present-day South Africa was transported to Britain in 1810. She was exhibited in a freak show act under the name "The Hottentot Venus", with great attention drawn to her labia and her buttocks.

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                • delawen@floss.socialD delawen@floss.social

                  @lumi @vagina_museum On the "bright" side, I know some women with a very high body count that could fool these idiots to believe they are absolute virgins... As if someone wanted to do that.

                  Maybe I'm old enough to value experience now. Or I have enough confidence in myself that I don't care being compared with previous partners. That person is fucking me now, and it is a bonus if they come with enough experience to know what they do! Go get them girl!

                  lumi@snug.moeL This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #15

                  @delawen @vagina_museum honestly, if someone cares about your body count, run away

                  life is too short to deal with them

                  i want to be with people that value me as a person, not that care about dumb metrics

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                  • vagina_museum@masto.aiV vagina_museum@masto.ai

                    This rather cursed screenshot was sent to us, and we regret to inform you that quite a lot of people seem to believe this myth, and related myths surrounding the vulva. These myths been around for literal millennia, even though there is no rooting whatsoever in reality. Let's take a little look at the history of misogyny and racism inherent in this belief...

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                    #16

                    @vagina_museum

                    😂

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                      #17

                      @lumi @vagina_museum @doombloomart

                      I think it's meant to be a magical process where it reacts to changes in partners, not to The One True Dick which arrives first.

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                      • celesteh@hachyderm.ioC celesteh@hachyderm.io

                        @lumi @vagina_museum @doombloomart

                        I think it's meant to be a magical process where it reacts to changes in partners, not to The One True Dick which arrives first.

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                        #18

                        @celesteh @vagina_museum @doombloomart my gock is the gock that will pierce the heavens

                        yes, i did feel the need to make a tengen toppa gurren lagann reference

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                        • farah@beige.partyF farah@beige.party

                          @vagina_museum WTAF

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                          #19

                          @farah I don’t want to get all “why men?” but… 😡

                          @vagina_museum

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                          • delawen@floss.socialD delawen@floss.social

                            @lumi @vagina_museum Probably not cis women, we can just check ourselves before and after losing the virginity and see that's not true.

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                            #20

                            @delawen @lumi @vagina_museum
                            My midwife claimed that there are many women who don't know well enough how their genitals look like. 😬
                            So we're speaking of a group of mainly cis-women, in their 20s and 30s, who had intercourse at least once in their lifes, more or less well informed and being long enough in Germany that they have the language skills to attend a birth preperation class (so the cultural barrier can't be that high). Still can't wrap my head around this.

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                            • kawunngg@mastoart.socialK kawunngg@mastoart.social

                              @delawen @lumi @vagina_museum
                              My midwife claimed that there are many women who don't know well enough how their genitals look like. 😬
                              So we're speaking of a group of mainly cis-women, in their 20s and 30s, who had intercourse at least once in their lifes, more or less well informed and being long enough in Germany that they have the language skills to attend a birth preperation class (so the cultural barrier can't be that high). Still can't wrap my head around this.

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                              #21

                              @kawunngg @delawen @vagina_museum i can't remember who it was, but there was this presentation by a US republican cis woman that got so many things wrong that i was extremely confused

                              like, this is your body you're talking about

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                              • vagina_museum@masto.aiV vagina_museum@masto.ai

                                Saartjie Baartman, a Black Khoisan woman from present-day South Africa was transported to Britain in 1810. She was exhibited in a freak show act under the name "The Hottentot Venus", with great attention drawn to her labia and her buttocks.

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                                #22

                                So, in short, the myth is misogynistic and racist af. And just in case anyone needs to hear it today:
                                ✨Something as insignificant as a penis cannot possibly change the appearance of the vulva✨

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                                • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

                                  @vagina_museum people ... actually believe this stuff? ​​

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                                  #23

                                  @lumi replace “people” with 'men'.
                                  @vagina_museum

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                                  • vagina_museum@masto.aiV vagina_museum@masto.ai

                                    So, in short, the myth is misogynistic and racist af. And just in case anyone needs to hear it today:
                                    ✨Something as insignificant as a penis cannot possibly change the appearance of the vulva✨

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                                    #24

                                    The depressing thing is that this myth isn't just niche, even a quarter of the way through the 21st century. One of our least favourite objects in our collection is a medical textbook outlining the difference between "true" and "false" virgins based on labia shape, size and colour. It was published in 2012. https://www.vaginamuseum.co.uk/muffbusters/2d-textbook

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                                    • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

                                      @vagina_museum people ... actually believe this stuff? ​​

                                      hypolite@friendica.mrpetovan.comH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #25
                                      @lumi @vagina_museum For example, at 16 on her first visit to the gynecologist, a friend was asked by the doctor if she wanted him to “fix” her labia. She thought there was something medically wrong until her mom said it wasn’t covered by insurance and she started to put two and two together.
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                                      • vagina_museum@masto.aiV vagina_museum@masto.ai

                                        So, in short, the myth is misogynistic and racist af. And just in case anyone needs to hear it today:
                                        ✨Something as insignificant as a penis cannot possibly change the appearance of the vulva✨

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                                        #26

                                        @vagina_museum 👍🏾

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                                        • hypolite@friendica.mrpetovan.comH hypolite@friendica.mrpetovan.com
                                          @lumi @vagina_museum For example, at 16 on her first visit to the gynecologist, a friend was asked by the doctor if she wanted him to “fix” her labia. She thought there was something medically wrong until her mom said it wasn’t covered by insurance and she started to put two and two together.
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                                          #27

                                          @hypolite @vagina_museum that is so messed up ​​

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