The people calling for a Eurovision boycott are right.
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The people calling for a Eurovision boycott are right. There is no ethical way to include Israel.
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The people calling for a Eurovision boycott are right. There is no ethical way to include Israel.
And the UK entry for the first time since I moved here is actually somebody really interesting.
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And the UK entry for the first time since I moved here is actually somebody really interesting.
@celesteh It was sooo frustrating reading the news. I’ve seen this dude live and I love his stuff. But I’m really not watching this year, because I have no hope they won’t keep coddling Israel’s inclusion after all the internal recourse last year was shot down by the EBU internally because of the board making up new rules on the spot to acting on any member broadcaster’s complaints when shit started to get real.
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The people calling for a Eurovision boycott are right. There is no ethical way to include Israel.
@celesteh The boycott really needs to happen. I stopped watching a few years ago because they ramped up the promotion of Israel VERY obviously during the show. It's probably going to be even worse now.
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@celesteh The boycott really needs to happen. I stopped watching a few years ago because they ramped up the promotion of Israel VERY obviously during the show. It's probably going to be even worse now.
Eurovision is a newswire and there are serious tradeoffs for newsgathering when countries are excluded from the song contest. Generally, I think its good to have international journalism happening in Israel and Palestine, so I used to argue that keeping the contest as it was had the best outcomes.
But if its actually a contest, Israel might win - they almost did last year - and that would be inappropriate. If they can't be allowed to win, then they can't be allowed to compete.
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Eurovision is a newswire and there are serious tradeoffs for newsgathering when countries are excluded from the song contest. Generally, I think its good to have international journalism happening in Israel and Palestine, so I used to argue that keeping the contest as it was had the best outcomes.
But if its actually a contest, Israel might win - they almost did last year - and that would be inappropriate. If they can't be allowed to win, then they can't be allowed to compete.
this also has downsides. Israel won the audience vote in the UK last year, partly enabled by boycotters sitting out the contest. While supporters of the country enlisted everyone they knew to vote as many times as the system would technically allow. A consumer boycott increases the chance of them winning.
I don't know what else to do, but there is risk in this plan.
This won't end the newswire, but I think the song contest may not survive.
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this also has downsides. Israel won the audience vote in the UK last year, partly enabled by boycotters sitting out the contest. While supporters of the country enlisted everyone they knew to vote as many times as the system would technically allow. A consumer boycott increases the chance of them winning.
I don't know what else to do, but there is risk in this plan.
This won't end the newswire, but I think the song contest may not survive.
@celesteh That is a valid concern. However, Israel has been using Eurosong as a positive propaganda machine for years. Maybe the contest does need to just die if they cannot ban them. It's no coincidence they keep landing in top 3, they are paying for it. The last time I watched (2023) their song was getting so much promo during breaks, it was so obvious and ridiculous.
But we do need to keep our eyes and news cycle on Gaza. Not sure what the right answer is, either. Sigh.
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this also has downsides. Israel won the audience vote in the UK last year, partly enabled by boycotters sitting out the contest. While supporters of the country enlisted everyone they knew to vote as many times as the system would technically allow. A consumer boycott increases the chance of them winning.
I don't know what else to do, but there is risk in this plan.
This won't end the newswire, but I think the song contest may not survive.
@celesteh @dona And they also absolutely broke contest rules in the process - which was why this came to a head the way it did in the first place.
A one-year ban specifically citing that would have protected the contest *as contest* - actually better, because now we know the genocide stans will consistently distort the televote to the point that the competition meta is Oops! All Jurybait and that likely makes for a less fun set of entries.
In the 2010s Eurovision was at the heart of my pop universe, to the point of me sometimes watching national selection shows in languages I don't understand. Those days are categorically gone, almost certainly never to return.
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