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  • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

    @cstross This is how they get us.

    Writers would never use AI-generated slop writing, but they'll happily use AI-generated slop imagery.
    Artists would never use AI-generated slop imagery, but they'll happily display art to AI-generated slop music.
    Musicians would never use AI-generated slop music, but they'll happily use AI-generated slop writing for lyrics.

    (And nobody cares about AI-generated slop code.)

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    @datarama @cstross this is why developing skills in multiple areas is so important. That way, we get hives from all the slop, not just one type.

    (I find I yick hard regardless of media type. As far as my brain is concerned, it’s shoggoths all the way down.)

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    • hareguizer@mastodon.artH hareguizer@mastodon.art

      @datarama @cstross this is why developing skills in multiple areas is so important. That way, we get hives from all the slop, not just one type.

      (I find I yick hard regardless of media type. As far as my brain is concerned, it’s shoggoths all the way down.)

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      @Hareguizer @cstross That's me, I guess. I make software for a living, but I also used to draw (and make pixel art), play a couple of musical instruments, and write (bad) short fiction.

      This is wonderful! It means that living in 2026 is a giant pile of unending disgust.

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        @cstross

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        @Npars01 @cstross

        I don't understand why nearly every science fiction author is opposed to the most science fiction technology in decades

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          @Npars01 @cstross

          I don't understand why nearly every science fiction author is opposed to the most science fiction technology in decades

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          @a @cstross

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          AI is a product accelerating an ecocide.

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            • a@girllich.linkA a@girllich.link

              @Npars01 @cstross

              I don't understand why nearly every science fiction author is opposed to the most science fiction technology in decades

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              @a @Npars01 Because we can see the second-order consequences and they are going to be *brutal*. (Also, the current AI stuff is basically marketing hype by right-wing investors like a16z looking to steal pension funds and loot stable businesses, and the mind uploading hype is from born-again Xtians who can't quite believe in Jesus any more so they want a less implausible, technological replacement.)

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                @passenger @a @Npars01 For a more nuanced explanation, there's this talk I gave at a conference in 2023 (later turned into an op-ed in Scientific American): https://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2023/11/dont-create-the-torment-nexus.html

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                • a@girllich.linkA a@girllich.link

                  @Npars01 @cstross

                  I don't understand why nearly every science fiction author is opposed to the most science fiction technology in decades

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                  @a @Npars01 @cstross because science fiction isn’t actually about cool gadgets, but about how people deal with technology and each other. It also helps that the current thing is a fiction itself and not an actual transformative technology.

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                    @davidgerard Well yes, but that still does not fill me with confidence in their ability to fight their way out of a wet paper bag.

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                    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                      @passenger @a @Npars01 For a more nuanced explanation, there's this talk I gave at a conference in 2023 (later turned into an op-ed in Scientific American): https://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2023/11/dont-create-the-torment-nexus.html

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                      @cstross @passenger @a @Npars01 “it sells cars to customers who think it means they can relax and watch a movie while they commute” leaving aside some deeper issues, we already have technologies that allow you to watch a movie on your commute. They’re just futuristic and sexy: trains and buses.

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                      • c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.ioC c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io

                        @cstross @passenger @a @Npars01 “it sells cars to customers who think it means they can relax and watch a movie while they commute” leaving aside some deeper issues, we already have technologies that allow you to watch a movie on your commute. They’re just futuristic and sexy: trains and buses.

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                        @c0dec0dec0de @cstross @passenger @a @Npars01 That's basically why I'd want one. We took an annual road trip for a long time to visit my in-laws. It was about 12 hours driving each time. There is no equivalent bus or train because I'm in the US where you're lucky to have either within a hundred miles.

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                        • gooba42@mastodon.socialG gooba42@mastodon.social

                          @c0dec0dec0de @cstross @passenger @a @Npars01 That's basically why I'd want one. We took an annual road trip for a long time to visit my in-laws. It was about 12 hours driving each time. There is no equivalent bus or train because I'm in the US where you're lucky to have either within a hundred miles.

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                          @gooba42 underlying/deeper issues in previous toot was meant to avoid talking about suburbanization and car-culture making the proliferation of railways in the US both difficult and a political poison pill for a number of large donor industries, cars only being the most obvious.
                          @cstross @passenger @a @Npars01

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                          • c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.ioC c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io

                            @a @Npars01 @cstross because science fiction isn’t actually about cool gadgets, but about how people deal with technology and each other. It also helps that the current thing is a fiction itself and not an actual transformative technology.

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                            @c0dec0dec0de @a @Npars01 @cstross this needs to be embossed on an iron brand and stamped on the face of any techbro who reads sci-fi and says "wouldnt it be cool if we had..."

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                            • meganl@mas.toM meganl@mas.to

                              @cstross Unfortunately I've seen this a lot - authors using AI artwork based on theft while decrying theft of their writing....

                              It's more of leopards eating faces, I guess...

                              #FuckAI

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                              @meganL @cstross AI thrives because everyone has been convinced that they must seek personal success and cut all costs to maximize personal profit.

                              Meanwhile, the type of work that meets that bar is rare and rarely of a quality that drives sales.

                              Creative folks need creative friends, this has always been true. Authors who want to save time and money in that arena are depriving themselves of a deeply enriching life. Nevermind thieving from others, they steal from themselves too.

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                              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                The Society of Authors (UK) is helping launch this: an identifier for human-authored (i.e. non-AI) books: https://humanauthored.co.uk/

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                                @cstross@wandering.shop doesn’t seem to ditched the AI artwork

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                                • asprinkleofsage@mastodon.socialA asprinkleofsage@mastodon.social

                                  @c0dec0dec0de @a @Npars01 @cstross this needs to be embossed on an iron brand and stamped on the face of any techbro who reads sci-fi and says "wouldnt it be cool if we had..."

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                                  @ASprinkleofSage @a @Npars01 @cstross seems a little wordy, maybe reduce to “poor reading comprehension” or “epically bad listener”

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                                    @ASprinkleofSage @a @Npars01 @cstross seems a little wordy, maybe reduce to “poor reading comprehension” or “epically bad listener”

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                                    @ASprinkleofSage @a @Npars01 @cstross I mean, “poor impulse control” also fits. Although I’ve gone off thinking about tattooing up all the billionaires with warning signs à la the werewolves in Joe Abercrombie’s The Devils: “Warning/Achtung/Caution”, “Do not trust”, “Liar”, “Manipulator”, “Abuser”…

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                                      @ASprinkleofSage @a @Npars01 @cstross I mean, “poor impulse control” also fits. Although I’ve gone off thinking about tattooing up all the billionaires with warning signs à la the werewolves in Joe Abercrombie’s The Devils: “Warning/Achtung/Caution”, “Do not trust”, “Liar”, “Manipulator”, “Abuser”…

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                                      @c0dec0dec0de @a @Npars01 @cstross i'd go with "sci-fi is about people not gadgets you dickhead" but anyway more wordy = stronger deterrent...

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