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  3. LLMs are absolutely stumbling over shit WolframAlpha was able to fifteen years ago for a fraction of the cost

LLMs are absolutely stumbling over shit WolframAlpha was able to fifteen years ago for a fraction of the cost

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    LLMs are absolutely stumbling over shit WolframAlpha was able to fifteen years ago for a fraction of the cost

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    • tholindeth@wizzzard.onlineT tholindeth@wizzzard.online

      LLMs are absolutely stumbling over shit WolframAlpha was able to fifteen years ago for a fraction of the cost

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      who would win

      running convex optimization on a few hundred million tokens of scraped text

      vs

      a bare minimum amount of programatic effort to analyze common query phrases and connect them to the relevant databases

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        who would win

        running convex optimization on a few hundred million tokens of scraped text

        vs

        a bare minimum amount of programatic effort to analyze common query phrases and connect them to the relevant databases

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        even building robust indices of the texts ingested by an LLM would be a better use of computational resources. recreating information from them probabalistically is just such a dumbfuck idea.

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        • tholindeth@wizzzard.onlineT tholindeth@wizzzard.online

          even building robust indices of the texts ingested by an LLM would be a better use of computational resources. recreating information from them probabalistically is just such a dumbfuck idea.

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          when you've promised investors that in a matter of months no one is going to need anything but a hammer, everything looks like a nail

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            when you've promised investors that in a matter of months no one is going to need anything but a hammer, everything looks like a nail

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            i feel like i was innoculated against llm hype because in like 2015 i spent a few hours laughing my ass off at the half-successful attempts to generate MTG cards and the absolutely unsuccessful experiment where they tried to do the same thing with a database of recipes and i was like oh, it works for MTG because nothing in that game refers anything outside of the symbols being manipulated

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            • tholindeth@wizzzard.onlineT tholindeth@wizzzard.online

              LLMs are absolutely stumbling over shit WolframAlpha was able to fifteen years ago for a fraction of the cost

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              @tholindeth And when wolfram alpha made mistakes, they were fun, and still usually technically correct!

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                @diogenes @tholindeth and no one gets sick or dies if the mtg cards are wrong

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                • tholindeth@wizzzard.onlineT tholindeth@wizzzard.online

                  LLMs are absolutely stumbling over shit WolframAlpha was able to fifteen years ago for a fraction of the cost

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                  @tholindeth @gsuberland it turns out computer programs with a deliberately-constructed ontology are Good, Actually

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                    @tholindeth And when wolfram alpha made mistakes, they were fun, and still usually technically correct!

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                    @unlofl @tholindeth big @weirdunits energy

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                      @tholindeth And when wolfram alpha made mistakes, they were fun, and still usually technically correct!

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                      @unlofl @tholindeth Heeee!

                      Is there an open source equivalent for Wolfram Alpha yet? Seems like the kind of fun shit critters would totally build for the hell of it, but I don't know if anyone has, 'cause it's also probably terribly complicated.

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                      • unlofl@mstdn.socialU unlofl@mstdn.social

                        @tholindeth And when wolfram alpha made mistakes, they were fun, and still usually technically correct!

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                        @unlofl @tholindeth qalc parses that as (32 gram·barns) / (5 tonne·barns)

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