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  • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

    @SnoopJ That is... confusing on *multiple* levels.

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    #37

    @xgranade I'm pretty sure I know how it fucked this one up: the bindings in question have a wrapper for the internal `Acme::Path` and most methods that accept paths will take an `AcmePath` or a `PyPath` (disambiguation of `pathlib.Path`)

    It's *wrong*, but I think I can see why

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    • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

      @xgranade I'm pretty sure I know how it fucked this one up: the bindings in question have a wrapper for the internal `Acme::Path` and most methods that accept paths will take an `AcmePath` or a `PyPath` (disambiguation of `pathlib.Path`)

      It's *wrong*, but I think I can see why

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      #38

      @SnoopJ I mean, that gets at the "optional" part, but why is it listing dependencies on the *standard library* at all?

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      • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

        @SnoopJ I mean, that gets at the "optional" part, but why is it listing dependencies on the *standard library* at all?

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        #39

        @xgranade yea, indeed

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        • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

          ```
          Python Dependencies:
          - Optional: pathlib (stdlib)
          ```

          uh

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          #40

          Verdict on the code analysis task is that it didn't fuck up its explanation anywhere near as much, although it still fucked up plenty enough to be dangerous to someone who is asking because they don't already know the answers.

          Turned the model loose on the "merge these two documents" task and it finished working in a handful of minutes. Now I get to go over the generated result with a fine-tooth comb and see if it's any good.

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          • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

            Verdict on the code analysis task is that it didn't fuck up its explanation anywhere near as much, although it still fucked up plenty enough to be dangerous to someone who is asking because they don't already know the answers.

            Turned the model loose on the "merge these two documents" task and it finished working in a handful of minutes. Now I get to go over the generated result with a fine-tooth comb and see if it's any good.

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            #41

            @SnoopJ see if it's any good*

            *: see if it's any good _this time_

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            • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

              @SnoopJ see if it's any good*

              *: see if it's any good _this time_

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              #42

              @glyph yes, I mean this specific output

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              • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

                Verdict on the code analysis task is that it didn't fuck up its explanation anywhere near as much, although it still fucked up plenty enough to be dangerous to someone who is asking because they don't already know the answers.

                Turned the model loose on the "merge these two documents" task and it finished working in a handful of minutes. Now I get to go over the generated result with a fine-tooth comb and see if it's any good.

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                #43

                Well, I've already spotted mistakes, so let's have clod chew on it some more with directions to unfuck it

                I really resent the way this CLI handles permissions. For editing a single file, you have a choice between "allow this specific edit operation this one time" and "allow all file operations for the rest of this session on any files"

                A "you can touch *that* file as much as you like" option seems like an obvious thing to add if you give a shit about limiting the blast radius of letting the model use external tools, but I guess that's a bridge too far huh

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                • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

                  Well, I've already spotted mistakes, so let's have clod chew on it some more with directions to unfuck it

                  I really resent the way this CLI handles permissions. For editing a single file, you have a choice between "allow this specific edit operation this one time" and "allow all file operations for the rest of this session on any files"

                  A "you can touch *that* file as much as you like" option seems like an obvious thing to add if you give a shit about limiting the blast radius of letting the model use external tools, but I guess that's a bridge too far huh

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                  #44

                  no wonder Enthusiasts end up nuking their shit, I wouldn't want to babysit the thing accepting each atomic operation as they come either, with how slow this process is

                  and the only other alternative is "fuck my shit up as much as you want"

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                  • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

                    Well, I've already spotted mistakes, so let's have clod chew on it some more with directions to unfuck it

                    I really resent the way this CLI handles permissions. For editing a single file, you have a choice between "allow this specific edit operation this one time" and "allow all file operations for the rest of this session on any files"

                    A "you can touch *that* file as much as you like" option seems like an obvious thing to add if you give a shit about limiting the blast radius of letting the model use external tools, but I guess that's a bridge too far huh

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                    #45

                    @SnoopJ IT, understanding consent, we've been here 😦

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                    • arrjay@tacobelllabs.netA arrjay@tacobelllabs.net

                      @SnoopJ IT, understanding consent, we've been here 😦

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                      #46

                      @arrjay sucks here

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                      • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

                        no wonder Enthusiasts end up nuking their shit, I wouldn't want to babysit the thing accepting each atomic operation as they come either, with how slow this process is

                        and the only other alternative is "fuck my shit up as much as you want"

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                        #47

                        Verdict: a more powerful model is capable of doing the dumb parts of the document concatenation, but nursing it through making fine edits for that concatenation to make sense is worst than just editing the document by hand.

                        So, I don't think it's very good at this kind of paperwork, either. Maybe for a document nobody cares about.

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                        • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

                          @glyph yes, I mean this specific output

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                          @SnoopJ @glyph Yeah, I was just about to make a crack about "now please do this 200 times so we can get some kind of data on rate and category of error".

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                          • cthos@mastodon.cthos.devC cthos@mastodon.cthos.dev

                            @SnoopJ @glyph Yeah, I was just about to make a crack about "now please do this 200 times so we can get some kind of data on rate and category of error".

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                            @SnoopJ @glyph But also I don't want you exposed to the cognitohazard for that long because it could melt your brain.

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                            • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

                              Verdict: a more powerful model is capable of doing the dumb parts of the document concatenation, but nursing it through making fine edits for that concatenation to make sense is worst than just editing the document by hand.

                              So, I don't think it's very good at this kind of paperwork, either. Maybe for a document nobody cares about.

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                              and doing so took the model ~336,500 tokens

                              For reference, the final merged document is about 20 KB of text, so conservatively about 8 tokens per byte processed (assuming I started with 2x 20 KB docs which is overestimating)

                              Woof.

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                              • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

                                and doing so took the model ~336,500 tokens

                                For reference, the final merged document is about 20 KB of text, so conservatively about 8 tokens per byte processed (assuming I started with 2x 20 KB docs which is overestimating)

                                Woof.

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                                @SnoopJ@hachyderm.io what's the cost of a token?

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                                • aud@fire.asta.lgbtA aud@fire.asta.lgbt

                                  @SnoopJ@hachyderm.io what's the cost of a token?

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                                  @SnoopJ@hachyderm.io (note: this is a real question and not necessarily an Arrested Development "how much is one token, Michael? ten dollars?" reference, but it's not not that, as well)

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                                  • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

                                    and doing so took the model ~336,500 tokens

                                    For reference, the final merged document is about 20 KB of text, so conservatively about 8 tokens per byte processed (assuming I started with 2x 20 KB docs which is overestimating)

                                    Woof.

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                                    @SnoopJ Eye-wateringly inefficient, and even so it made mistakes? 😭

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                                    • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

                                      no wonder Enthusiasts end up nuking their shit, I wouldn't want to babysit the thing accepting each atomic operation as they come either, with how slow this process is

                                      and the only other alternative is "fuck my shit up as much as you want"

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                                      @SnoopJ

                                      Gemini CLI (at least the one we use at work...) has the option to allow a certain command to proceed without permission (for example, it heavily relies on rg)

                                      It also has a YOLO mode which is not encouraged LOL

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                                      • aradayn@mastodon.socialA aradayn@mastodon.social

                                        @SnoopJ Eye-wateringly inefficient, and even so it made mistakes? 😭

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                                        @Aradayn technologia!

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                                        • aud@fire.asta.lgbtA aud@fire.asta.lgbt

                                          @SnoopJ@hachyderm.io (note: this is a real question and not necessarily an Arrested Development "how much is one token, Michael? ten dollars?" reference, but it's not not that, as well)

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                                          @aud specific value depends on who you're asking and what day you're asking on. Fractions of a cent, though.

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