Since several people have asked what's going on:
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Since several people have asked what's going on:
Faculty in the Colleges of Engineering and Business have teamed up under false pretenses in an attempt to DOGE the entire College of Arts and Sciences at my university, and have spent the last week lying to our faces about it.
@Impossible_PhD as a former fairly stupid engineering major, uuuuugh
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Since several people have asked what's going on:
Faculty in the Colleges of Engineering and Business have teamed up under false pretenses in an attempt to DOGE the entire College of Arts and Sciences at my university, and have spent the last week lying to our faces about it.
Their intent is to not only try and get a third to a half of us fired, but to scavenge our budgetary resources to reinforce their shrinking programs.
For the record, our enrollment in Arts and Sciences is basically stable.
None of this is either a complete nor entirely accurate representation of the situation. A complete and accurate accounting would require a full-length essay to explain for anyone not in academia. I'm not doing that in a twitter-but-without-nazis platform.
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Their intent is to not only try and get a third to a half of us fired, but to scavenge our budgetary resources to reinforce their shrinking programs.
For the record, our enrollment in Arts and Sciences is basically stable.
None of this is either a complete nor entirely accurate representation of the situation. A complete and accurate accounting would require a full-length essay to explain for anyone not in academia. I'm not doing that in a twitter-but-without-nazis platform.
I have never been so utterly disrespected, treated with such absolute contempt, in my entire life, as I was last night.
And I am trans.
In *this* America.
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I have never been so utterly disrespected, treated with such absolute contempt, in my entire life, as I was last night.
And I am trans.
In *this* America.
@Impossible_PhD I struggle to find the right words but: it is deplorable and awful and I am so sorry you were disrespected and treated in anyway other than respectfully. It also sucks beyond words that the College of Arts and Sciences would be targeted for reductions.
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Their intent is to not only try and get a third to a half of us fired, but to scavenge our budgetary resources to reinforce their shrinking programs.
For the record, our enrollment in Arts and Sciences is basically stable.
None of this is either a complete nor entirely accurate representation of the situation. A complete and accurate accounting would require a full-length essay to explain for anyone not in academia. I'm not doing that in a twitter-but-without-nazis platform.
@Impossible_PhD the holy fuck, what?! I want to scream on your behalf…maybe punch an asshat or two in the gut.
My wife’s university has been going through less severe but fights with a similar breakdown. I think a lot of STEM scholars have lost perspective and spend too much time around toxic media feeding their egos. It’s so awful.
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Since several people have asked what's going on:
Faculty in the Colleges of Engineering and Business have teamed up under false pretenses in an attempt to DOGE the entire College of Arts and Sciences at my university, and have spent the last week lying to our faces about it.
@Impossible_PhD So, the Schools whose research has industry funding as a cushion for shortfalls in public research funding agencies want to shut down the schools that don't have industry funding but do contribute core classes required for breadth in Bachelor's degrees? FFS.
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Their intent is to not only try and get a third to a half of us fired, but to scavenge our budgetary resources to reinforce their shrinking programs.
For the record, our enrollment in Arts and Sciences is basically stable.
None of this is either a complete nor entirely accurate representation of the situation. A complete and accurate accounting would require a full-length essay to explain for anyone not in academia. I'm not doing that in a twitter-but-without-nazis platform.
Is the root issue shrinking out-of-state student enrollment? If so, I'd watch the Math and Computer Sciences departments too.
I know our state university recently took steps to hedge against that risk, despite out-of-state students being capped at 30%
Is this something your actual university is considering? If so, what are they smoking?
Cutting in the areas that are stable or growing is stupid -- it won't fix the problem in the shrinking departments, and it will degrade the university reputation AND cost you more students in short order.
Greedy, short-sighted, STUPID.
Kinda what I'd expect from MBAs.
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I have never been so utterly disrespected, treated with such absolute contempt, in my entire life, as I was last night.
And I am trans.
In *this* America.
I am imagine how that went, having listened to some engineers and MBA's talk about the entire rest of education.
I am sorry you were subject to that. I sincerely hope your university gives that idiocy the attention -- and scorn -- it deserves.
Having watched various educational institutes deal with this sort of thing, I'm aware that "hoping it's treated like the dumb and insulting idea it is, and telling those departments that it's the shrinking departments that face cuts due to less demand" is optimistic.
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@Impossible_PhD I struggle to find the right words but: it is deplorable and awful and I am so sorry you were disrespected and treated in anyway other than respectfully. It also sucks beyond words that the College of Arts and Sciences would be targeted for reductions.
@dereed999 Its not, *officially*. They just want to cut half of the general education requirements that CAS service.
To trigger retrenchment.
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@Impossible_PhD the holy fuck, what?! I want to scream on your behalf…maybe punch an asshat or two in the gut.
My wife’s university has been going through less severe but fights with a similar breakdown. I think a lot of STEM scholars have lost perspective and spend too much time around toxic media feeding their egos. It’s so awful.
@JoscelynTransient as it has always been.
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@Impossible_PhD So, the Schools whose research has industry funding as a cushion for shortfalls in public research funding agencies want to shut down the schools that don't have industry funding but do contribute core classes required for breadth in Bachelor's degrees? FFS.
@Robotistry by reducing the number and variety of courses required for breadth in a Bachelors degree, yes.
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Is the root issue shrinking out-of-state student enrollment? If so, I'd watch the Math and Computer Sciences departments too.
I know our state university recently took steps to hedge against that risk, despite out-of-state students being capped at 30%
Is this something your actual university is considering? If so, what are they smoking?
Cutting in the areas that are stable or growing is stupid -- it won't fix the problem in the shrinking departments, and it will degrade the university reputation AND cost you more students in short order.
Greedy, short-sighted, STUPID.
Kinda what I'd expect from MBAs.
@EmilyGB2023 no, my university's enrollment has been stable for the last five years now.
Their programs are shrinking, and by a lot.
You know what programs are thriving? Social Work. Communications. Creative Writing. Biology.
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@Robotistry by reducing the number and variety of courses required for breadth in a Bachelors degree, yes.
@Impossible_PhD Infuriating.
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