Krita’s Maintainer is awesome!
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@halla @Li @KitsuneofInari I completely respect the decision of the maintainers, and think it’s better to have a clear policy than let the debate stew and simmer. Given the user base and sentiment against the GenAI topic, it’s possibly even the right move.
I just want to see an even better justification, like: we don’t add code, we tactically remove it. Our code base is a sculpture, and LLMs aren’t much help here.
Or even: as you kind of wrote above, Krita is an expression of the joy of art through the joy of coding. We aren’t feeling the vibes when you PR us your lobster soup, but feel free to make your own painting program from scratch. Call it Pincha, if you want!
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Krita’s Maintainer is awesome!
@KitsuneofInari Not sure if that’s on purpose so just in case: the last paragraph of the alt‐text is not visible on the image?
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@ulyssesalmeida @KitsuneofInari Aside from them all slapping their branding on it? Poor code quality. LLMs don't know how to call existing functions; they just write new code with some stab at the same functionality. Heck, they're finding Claude Code is vibe-coded by Claude itself and it's so incapable of calling functions that it's literally re-prompting itself instead.
If that's any indication, detecting generated code is as simple as a gut check. If your guts are wringing your lunch back out, it's generated. XD
@bluestarultor @KitsuneofInari fair point. So, in the end of the day, they will accept good quality code and reject poor quality code.
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@bluestarultor @KitsuneofInari fair point. So, in the end of the day, they will accept good quality code and reject poor quality code.
@ulyssesalmeida @KitsuneofInari I mean one would also hope someone has morals to disclose it if it's for some reason not immediately caught, but then Claude Code also has a special stealth mode only accessible to Anthropic employees, so probably not.
Ultimately, "no" means "no."
And frankly anyone violating that consent can take a big leap on a balance beam and land on both sides.
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Krita’s Maintainer is awesome!
@KitsuneofInari THANK YOU @krita YOU ARE WONDERFUL
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Krita’s Maintainer is awesome!
@KitsuneofInari that's such a good way of putting it!
When I see people saying "I've read and understood all the generated code" it feels like "I can quit smoking whenever I want"
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@KitsuneofInari how do they detect LLM generated code?
@ulyssesalmeida You can't, not always. Dishonest dev's will exist. How many thieves donate to charity? Probably some. How will we know? We dont. @KitsuneofInari
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@Li @KitsuneofInari So... Nobody can really understand code fully, not even the code they have written. Code has become too complex, and there is just too much of it!
But if you have thought about what your were writing, if you have recorded your thinking in commit messages and comments.
There is a chance you might have a recollection of having created that code when debugging it, ten years later.
If you asked Claude to regexp-slop it for you, not chance.
@halla @Li @KitsuneofInari Anyone who has ever tried knows that if you try to learn math by just reading a bunch of chapters in the text book, you might get a passable C on the test the next day, but you'll flunk any attempt as little as a week later.
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Krita’s Maintainer is awesome!
@KitsuneofInari To halla's point, this research here (https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=6097646) found that over 70% of people using LLM tools accept AI's faulty reasoning.
Though I wonder how much of that is human's inability to detect faulty reasoning? The research did tests that included time-pressured tasks and the impact that had.
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Krita’s Maintainer is awesome!
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Krita’s Maintainer is awesome!
@KitsuneofInari Krita just never stops being based at every corner.
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@GezThePez
Layers of abstraction should be predictable, reliable, reproducable. They never fully are (bugs, leaking abstraction), but bullshit machines cannot be in principle. You will always have to check everything down to the base layer.That isn't abstraction.
It's a tool.
In the sense that a Nikon F is a hammer.
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@GezThePez
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