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  3. *Edit*: here at least, I am clearly not isolated!

*Edit*: here at least, I am clearly not isolated!

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  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

    *Edit*: here at least, I am clearly not isolated!

    Perhaps I am increasingly isolated in holding this position, but I have no interest in reading "AI"-generated slop.

    I love reading.

    I read people's blogs and toots and whatever *because people wrote them* and I want to read their own thoughts and opinions.

    I buy books, and read numerous different authors. I like finding new authors, bringing new ideas, styles etc.

    Same with "AI" images. I'd prefer no image at all.

    petitcoeur@hachyderm.ioP This user is from outside of this forum
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    @neil You're not isolated. I also have zero interest in reading / watching / hearing AI generated stuff. Totally pointless.

    Humanity grew by exchanging ideas. Between people.

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      #46

      @stroobl
      AI can write good docs is an unpopular opinion among people that know the value of documentation. Rightfully so because:

      1. "AI" doesn't exist, and LLM's can't "know" meaning. They hide it well.
      2. Writing documentation proves the author cares about the thing they document.
      3. Documenting something surfaces it's subtlest bugs.

      If devs use llm for documentation, the software is shit. If you use llm to describe others' software, you're taking a great risk of misunderstanding it.
      @neil

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      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

        *Edit*: here at least, I am clearly not isolated!

        Perhaps I am increasingly isolated in holding this position, but I have no interest in reading "AI"-generated slop.

        I love reading.

        I read people's blogs and toots and whatever *because people wrote them* and I want to read their own thoughts and opinions.

        I buy books, and read numerous different authors. I like finding new authors, bringing new ideas, styles etc.

        Same with "AI" images. I'd prefer no image at all.

        derickr@phpc.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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        #47

        @neil I made that exact point in my closing keynote at #dpc last Friday. There was a lot of LLM generated images in many presentations, even when actual photos existed. My line was something akin to: I'd rather see badly drawn stick figures illustrating my points than fake generic "art", and I also made the point about the different ideas and writing styles of authors.

        I'll turn it into a blog post soon.

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        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

          *Edit*: here at least, I am clearly not isolated!

          Perhaps I am increasingly isolated in holding this position, but I have no interest in reading "AI"-generated slop.

          I love reading.

          I read people's blogs and toots and whatever *because people wrote them* and I want to read their own thoughts and opinions.

          I buy books, and read numerous different authors. I like finding new authors, bringing new ideas, styles etc.

          Same with "AI" images. I'd prefer no image at all.

          sephster@fosstodon.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
          sephster@fosstodon.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
          sephster@fosstodon.org
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          #48

          @neil best book you read last year? Looking for recommendations

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          • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

            *Edit*: here at least, I am clearly not isolated!

            Perhaps I am increasingly isolated in holding this position, but I have no interest in reading "AI"-generated slop.

            I love reading.

            I read people's blogs and toots and whatever *because people wrote them* and I want to read their own thoughts and opinions.

            I buy books, and read numerous different authors. I like finding new authors, bringing new ideas, styles etc.

            Same with "AI" images. I'd prefer no image at all.

            alex@social.alexhyett.comA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #49

            @neil I am definitely in the “if you couldn’t be bothered to write it, I can’t be bothered to read it” category.

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            • sephster@fosstodon.orgS sephster@fosstodon.org

              @neil best book you read last year? Looking for recommendations

              neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
              neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
              neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk
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              #50

              @sephster Let me reply when I have my eReader or calibre in front of me!

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              • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                *Edit*: here at least, I am clearly not isolated!

                Perhaps I am increasingly isolated in holding this position, but I have no interest in reading "AI"-generated slop.

                I love reading.

                I read people's blogs and toots and whatever *because people wrote them* and I want to read their own thoughts and opinions.

                I buy books, and read numerous different authors. I like finding new authors, bringing new ideas, styles etc.

                Same with "AI" images. I'd prefer no image at all.

                solderandchaos@mastodon.me.ukS This user is from outside of this forum
                solderandchaos@mastodon.me.ukS This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote last edited by
                #51

                @neil definitely not isolated. It is a hill I will almost certainly be at least critically injured on.

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                • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                  *Edit*: here at least, I am clearly not isolated!

                  Perhaps I am increasingly isolated in holding this position, but I have no interest in reading "AI"-generated slop.

                  I love reading.

                  I read people's blogs and toots and whatever *because people wrote them* and I want to read their own thoughts and opinions.

                  I buy books, and read numerous different authors. I like finding new authors, bringing new ideas, styles etc.

                  Same with "AI" images. I'd prefer no image at all.

                  slothrop@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                  slothrop@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #52

                  @neil most of my early professional training was as a text person. Literature, journalism, history. Professions where you obsess about individual words, sentence structure, context, and layers of meaning.

                  For this reason, I find LLM-generated text supremely exhausting to read. I keep looking for meaning and intention, and it just isn’t - can’t be - there.

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                  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                    *Edit*: here at least, I am clearly not isolated!

                    Perhaps I am increasingly isolated in holding this position, but I have no interest in reading "AI"-generated slop.

                    I love reading.

                    I read people's blogs and toots and whatever *because people wrote them* and I want to read their own thoughts and opinions.

                    I buy books, and read numerous different authors. I like finding new authors, bringing new ideas, styles etc.

                    Same with "AI" images. I'd prefer no image at all.

                    nobody@mastodon.acm.orgN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #53

                    @neil
                    I very much relate and, at least for myself, I'd say it's not even anthropocentrism, not "human supremacy". It's largely about SOTA, it's about information hygiene. SOTA in thought, SOTA in language and expression, which are achieved through struggle and experience that today happen to mean specifically human experience. As for hygiene, there's the matter of attention being a very scarce resource, and the matter of contamination: exposure to information affects the thought...

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                    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                      *Edit*: here at least, I am clearly not isolated!

                      Perhaps I am increasingly isolated in holding this position, but I have no interest in reading "AI"-generated slop.

                      I love reading.

                      I read people's blogs and toots and whatever *because people wrote them* and I want to read their own thoughts and opinions.

                      I buy books, and read numerous different authors. I like finding new authors, bringing new ideas, styles etc.

                      Same with "AI" images. I'd prefer no image at all.

                      rpbook@gts.phillipsuk.orgR This user is from outside of this forum
                      rpbook@gts.phillipsuk.orgR This user is from outside of this forum
                      rpbook@gts.phillipsuk.org
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                      #54

                      @neil I have no interest in AI generated crap either. Even though the fediverse is my only social media, I do sometimes feel very isolated in that stance. It's good to see so many replies to your post agreeing with us 🙂

                      I've commissioned an artist to create the cover of my next book. He periodically sends me work-in-progress images. It's fascinating watching the evolution, and I love being asked about specifics and being able to offer feedback. I can't imagine it would be the same if I was talking to a machine.

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