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  3. If any of my #France #Accessibility people have weight here, make sure they require #Disability support because to a lot of the open source community, disability access is a feature, not a right.

If any of my #France #Accessibility people have weight here, make sure they require #Disability support because to a lot of the open source community, disability access is a feature, not a right.

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  • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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    If any of my #France #Accessibility people have weight here, make sure they require #Disability support because to a lot of the open source community, disability access is a feature, not a right. These corporations software are more disability friendly France ditches Microsoft for Linux to achieve digital sovereignty – and it's not the only one! | Tuta https://tuta.com/blog/countries-ditching-microsoft-choosing-linux-digital-sovereignty #OpenSource #Linux

    mdione@en.osm.townM menelion@dragonscave.spaceM raito@nixos.parisR jetlagjen@gts.phillipsuk.orgJ keydelk@fosstodon.orgK 7 Replies Last reply
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    • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

      If any of my #France #Accessibility people have weight here, make sure they require #Disability support because to a lot of the open source community, disability access is a feature, not a right. These corporations software are more disability friendly France ditches Microsoft for Linux to achieve digital sovereignty – and it's not the only one! | Tuta https://tuta.com/blog/countries-ditching-microsoft-choosing-linux-digital-sovereignty #OpenSource #Linux

      mdione@en.osm.townM This user is from outside of this forum
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      @WeirdWriter agreed, but maybe this and any other state in Europe could set up a money pot to pay a few/bunch of devs to add the missing pieces.

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      • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

        If any of my #France #Accessibility people have weight here, make sure they require #Disability support because to a lot of the open source community, disability access is a feature, not a right. These corporations software are more disability friendly France ditches Microsoft for Linux to achieve digital sovereignty – and it's not the only one! | Tuta https://tuta.com/blog/countries-ditching-microsoft-choosing-linux-digital-sovereignty #OpenSource #Linux

        menelion@dragonscave.spaceM This user is from outside of this forum
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        @WeirdWriter Exactly. I'm in France, and I'm deeply worried. With this anti-GAFAM hysteria in Europe, nobody cares about #Accessibility, as if 15% of population didn't exist. #Linux #DigitalSovereignty #SouveraintéNumérique

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        • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

          If any of my #France #Accessibility people have weight here, make sure they require #Disability support because to a lot of the open source community, disability access is a feature, not a right. These corporations software are more disability friendly France ditches Microsoft for Linux to achieve digital sovereignty – and it's not the only one! | Tuta https://tuta.com/blog/countries-ditching-microsoft-choosing-linux-digital-sovereignty #OpenSource #Linux

          raito@nixos.parisR This user is from outside of this forum
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          @WeirdWriter I'm one of the author of the solutions mentioned in the article implicitly and we will definitely do our best, while working with the giants we depend upon — KDE, etc.

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          • raito@nixos.parisR raito@nixos.paris

            @WeirdWriter I'm one of the author of the solutions mentioned in the article implicitly and we will definitely do our best, while working with the giants we depend upon — KDE, etc.

            weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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            @raito I haven’t looked at your profile yet, but what solution mentioned in the article as yours? And can you send me a link that talks about your disabilities support efforts?

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            • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

              @raito I haven’t looked at your profile yet, but what solution mentioned in the article as yours? And can you send me a link that talks about your disabilities support efforts?

              raito@nixos.parisR This user is from outside of this forum
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              @WeirdWriter In my case, I'm talking about https://github.com/cloud-gouv/securix

              I'm sorry I do not have a clean link that talks about the disabilities support efforts, I hope I can share more about this as part of a roadmap of the project in the future

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              • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                If any of my #France #Accessibility people have weight here, make sure they require #Disability support because to a lot of the open source community, disability access is a feature, not a right. These corporations software are more disability friendly France ditches Microsoft for Linux to achieve digital sovereignty – and it's not the only one! | Tuta https://tuta.com/blog/countries-ditching-microsoft-choosing-linux-digital-sovereignty #OpenSource #Linux

                jetlagjen@gts.phillipsuk.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                @WeirdWriter I sincerely hope that something as big as a country's civil service can demand it and then it becomes standard.

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                • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                  If any of my #France #Accessibility people have weight here, make sure they require #Disability support because to a lot of the open source community, disability access is a feature, not a right. These corporations software are more disability friendly France ditches Microsoft for Linux to achieve digital sovereignty – and it's not the only one! | Tuta https://tuta.com/blog/countries-ditching-microsoft-choosing-linux-digital-sovereignty #OpenSource #Linux

                  keydelk@fosstodon.orgK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @WeirdWriter I hope the increased usage of Linux in the EU leads to more development of Accessibility tools for the platform.

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                  • jetlagjen@gts.phillipsuk.orgJ jetlagjen@gts.phillipsuk.org

                    @WeirdWriter I sincerely hope that something as big as a country's civil service can demand it and then it becomes standard.

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                    @jetlagjen This is my hope also. Sure, a lot of corporations only do the bare minimum when it comes to disability design, but I will gladly take the bare minimum over having 0 access at all

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                    • keydelk@fosstodon.orgK keydelk@fosstodon.org

                      @WeirdWriter I hope the increased usage of Linux in the EU leads to more development of Accessibility tools for the platform.

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                      @keydelk I’m hoping for https://gts.phillipsuk.org/@jetlagjen/statuses/01KPZRCCRWV08KNM1DK7C6CDZV

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                      • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                        If any of my #France #Accessibility people have weight here, make sure they require #Disability support because to a lot of the open source community, disability access is a feature, not a right. These corporations software are more disability friendly France ditches Microsoft for Linux to achieve digital sovereignty – and it's not the only one! | Tuta https://tuta.com/blog/countries-ditching-microsoft-choosing-linux-digital-sovereignty #OpenSource #Linux

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                        @WeirdWriter Open source developers willing to work on such things don't grow on tree. Corporations have a lot of money to make their software accessible, and do so not out of the goodness of their heart, but to comply with regulation. Hopefully France moving to Linux will mean there will be investment in developing and upstreaming accessibility features, so that Linux complies with whatever accessibility regulation there is in Europe.

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                        • alexleduc@mstdn.caA alexleduc@mstdn.ca

                          @WeirdWriter Open source developers willing to work on such things don't grow on tree. Corporations have a lot of money to make their software accessible, and do so not out of the goodness of their heart, but to comply with regulation. Hopefully France moving to Linux will mean there will be investment in developing and upstreaming accessibility features, so that Linux complies with whatever accessibility regulation there is in Europe.

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                          @alexleduc That’s exactly the point I was making. You should ask yourself why it takes regulation to care about accessibility

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                          • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                            If any of my #France #Accessibility people have weight here, make sure they require #Disability support because to a lot of the open source community, disability access is a feature, not a right. These corporations software are more disability friendly France ditches Microsoft for Linux to achieve digital sovereignty – and it's not the only one! | Tuta https://tuta.com/blog/countries-ditching-microsoft-choosing-linux-digital-sovereignty #OpenSource #Linux

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                            @WeirdWriter These news I keep seeing make me smile ❤

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                            • menelion@dragonscave.spaceM menelion@dragonscave.space

                              @WeirdWriter Exactly. I'm in France, and I'm deeply worried. With this anti-GAFAM hysteria in Europe, nobody cares about #Accessibility, as if 15% of population didn't exist. #Linux #DigitalSovereignty #SouveraintéNumérique

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                              @menelion@dragonscave.space @WeirdWriter@caneandable.social I worked for a consulting firm on enterprise software in the past. The kind of software that's used by large sales departments. I did the best of my leadership role to push the dev team to care about accessibility, but in the end, clients never cared about it so it was always a best effort thing, and only for those that knew how to do things correctly. Clients openly told us that their branding, in internal softwares, was more important than accessibility, to a point where one client told me personally that they dont give a fuck about disabled people because they just won't hire them. That hurt.

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                              • alexleduc@mstdn.caA alexleduc@mstdn.ca

                                @WeirdWriter Open source developers willing to work on such things don't grow on tree. Corporations have a lot of money to make their software accessible, and do so not out of the goodness of their heart, but to comply with regulation. Hopefully France moving to Linux will mean there will be investment in developing and upstreaming accessibility features, so that Linux complies with whatever accessibility regulation there is in Europe.

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                                But also, like, this response is proof that open source isn't regulated, so if people want accessibility and accessible devices, then they will get more out of regulating corporations, looks like. @alexleduc

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                                • kawazoe@transfem.socialK kawazoe@transfem.social

                                  @menelion@dragonscave.space @WeirdWriter@caneandable.social I worked for a consulting firm on enterprise software in the past. The kind of software that's used by large sales departments. I did the best of my leadership role to push the dev team to care about accessibility, but in the end, clients never cared about it so it was always a best effort thing, and only for those that knew how to do things correctly. Clients openly told us that their branding, in internal softwares, was more important than accessibility, to a point where one client told me personally that they dont give a fuck about disabled people because they just won't hire them. That hurt.

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                                  Oh yeah! I had to learn the hard way that regulation is the only way people will make their shit accessible unless they are directly impacted by disability. @kawazoe @menelion

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                                  • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                                    But also, like, this response is proof that open source isn't regulated, so if people want accessibility and accessible devices, then they will get more out of regulating corporations, looks like. @alexleduc

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                                    @WeirdWriter Regulation applies to everyone. i.e. Government suppliers have to comply if they want to get the contract. This will not be different for the Open Source software that will replace the closed source ones.

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