so given systemd's thing about allowing slopcoding, and their complying in advance with age verification, what are the alternatives for a (till now) lubuntu user?
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so given systemd's thing about allowing slopcoding, and their complying in advance with age verification, what are the alternatives for a (till now) lubuntu user? i e ideally works in a familiar-ish way, deb files etc? or is that itself a fallacy?
I'm guessing my 18.04 machine is safe as there are no more updates for it
, but does the announcement mean they will try and put this bs in 22.04 and up still?
realistically im unlikely to have the time/spoons to change existing machines/installs but instead as machines come up for a rebuild they'll be built on new structures. hence im interested in the likely impact on existing installs as well as where to move to in future.
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so given systemd's thing about allowing slopcoding, and their complying in advance with age verification, what are the alternatives for a (till now) lubuntu user? i e ideally works in a familiar-ish way, deb files etc? or is that itself a fallacy?
I'm guessing my 18.04 machine is safe as there are no more updates for it, but does the announcement mean they will try and put this bs in 22.04 and up still?
realistically im unlikely to have the time/spoons to change existing machines/installs but instead as machines come up for a rebuild they'll be built on new structures. hence im interested in the likely impact on existing installs as well as where to move to in future.
#linux #noai #fuckslopdevuan removed systemd and most dependencies on it, with workarounds for those few that cannot be removed.
It remains dependent on debian for everything else.
slackware remains independent and free of systemd. A lot of packages must be built locally. User has better control over what goes on their systems. slackware is regarded by others as ¨for experts only¨ but that sems to be bs.
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devuan removed systemd and most dependencies on it, with workarounds for those few that cannot be removed.
It remains dependent on debian for everything else.
slackware remains independent and free of systemd. A lot of packages must be built locally. User has better control over what goes on their systems. slackware is regarded by others as ¨for experts only¨ but that sems to be bs.
@sasutina13 @nflux granted, neither if these are beginner-friendly.
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@sasutina13 @nflux granted, neither if these are beginner-friendly.
Nowadays I´d suspect the learning curve is not as steep as it used to be, and that there seems to be much more help available to anyone starting out.
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@sasutina13 @nflux granted, neither if these are beginner-friendly.
@kkarhan @sasutina13 thank you both, that's much appreciated. I'll try to dig into/experiment with those when spoons/opportunity/hardware allow
. if nothing else they give me a direction to start looking in 
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@sasutina13 pressing X for doubt
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@kkarhan @sasutina13 thank you both, that's much appreciated. I'll try to dig into/experiment with those when spoons/opportunity/hardware allow
. if nothing else they give me a direction to start looking in .@nflux @sasutina13 np.
I am working on a distro (#OS1337), but I acknowledge that it ain't even remotely near what you're most likely looking for on a desktop…
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@sasutina13 pressing X for doubt
@kkarhan ( unix and i go waaaay back. love-hate relationship, etc... Whereas it has always been mutual hate with windows--except for windows 1. )
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@kkarhan @sasutina13 thank you both, that's much appreciated. I'll try to dig into/experiment with those when spoons/opportunity/hardware allow
. if nothing else they give me a direction to start looking in .@nflux
Devuan uses an installer similar to debian and is much easier than slackware to set up.Slackware is getting there, bit by bit.
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@sasutina13 @kkarhan I think last time I reinstalled this laptop (~2018/19) I tried to install Debian but for some reason it wasn't happening (iirc a driver issue that wasn't meant to exist). hopefully those issues are sorted now and ive had no issues with it on VPSs, so debian without systemd definitely sounds worth a look
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