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  3. Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 32 - 5 May - Strasbourg - Rumelange - Kirchberg - Wiltz - Libramont - Bruxelles

Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 32 - 5 May - Strasbourg - Rumelange - Kirchberg - Wiltz - Libramont - Bruxelles

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 110 of 125
    TER 30302
    07:53 Strasbourg - Metz Ville 09:21
    SNCF for TER Fluo Grand Est

    Train type: GEC Alsthom, MTE BB 26000 locomotive, 8 Corail carriages, driving control car
    ⚡️ (25kV ac)
    🚲: ✅
    🦽: ✅ (lift on platform)
    🛜: ⛔️
    🍽️: ⛔️
    🧳: 😐 (narrow doors high steps)
    🧽: 😐 (it’s grimy, but I’ve seen worse)
    Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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    TER 30302
    07:53 Strasbourg - Metz Ville 09:21

    Distance: 154.2km
    Average speed: 105km/h

    5 stops:
    Brumath
    Saverne
    Réding
    Morhange
    Metz Ville

    This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#10/48.848451/6.954346

    #CrossBorderRail

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      TER 30302
      07:53 Strasbourg - Metz Ville 09:21

      Distance: 154.2km
      Average speed: 105km/h

      5 stops:
      Brumath
      Saverne
      Réding
      Morhange
      Metz Ville

      This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#10/48.848451/6.954346

      #CrossBorderRail

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      SNCF Connect, it can *always* be worse than you imagine. I am on Interrail today but wondered how much Metz 🇫🇷 - Bettembourg 🇱🇺costs. SNCF Connect can’t tell me, TER Grand Est site can. SNCF is the operator. 🤷‍♂️ #CrossBorderRail

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        SNCF Connect, it can *always* be worse than you imagine. I am on Interrail today but wondered how much Metz 🇫🇷 - Bettembourg 🇱🇺costs. SNCF Connect can’t tell me, TER Grand Est site can. SNCF is the operator. 🤷‍♂️ #CrossBorderRail

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        Trainline can’t sell it either 🤦‍♂️ #CrossBorderRail

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          Trainline can’t sell it either 🤦‍♂️ #CrossBorderRail

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          PEOPLE DO YOUR JOBS

          THERE’S A SOLID RAIL SERVICE

          MAKE IT EASY TO GET TICKETS!

          🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            PEOPLE DO YOUR JOBS

            THERE’S A SOLID RAIL SERVICE

            MAKE IT EASY TO GET TICKETS!

            🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

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            Also public transport is free in Luxembourg

            So all you need is to sell a ticket to the fictitious station at the border (Bettembourg Grenze or some such)

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              Also public transport is free in Luxembourg

              So all you need is to sell a ticket to the fictitious station at the border (Bettembourg Grenze or some such)

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              @jon

              It was so funny standing at a station in Luxembourg trying to get a ticket at a machine - but there where only tickets for first class. Then suddenly service personal appeared telling us that we don't need tickets. I was shocked by both: I don't need to pay and you offer support by humans?

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                PEOPLE DO YOUR JOBS

                THERE’S A SOLID RAIL SERVICE

                MAKE IT EASY TO GET TICKETS!

                🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

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                @jon It's good we're working on trying to get that fixed then 😉

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  Also public transport is free in Luxembourg

                  So all you need is to sell a ticket to the fictitious station at the border (Bettembourg Grenze or some such)

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                  Something’s wrong. The TER is crawling along.

                  Rather than tell us what’s wrong (which would be handy!) we’re being warned to not open the doors.

                  Priorities!

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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    Trainline can’t sell it either 🤦‍♂️ #CrossBorderRail

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                    @jon AFAIK the only way for third parties to sell any TER is through SNCF. So whatever they have is what third parties (who are connected to SNCF Connect API’s) will sell.

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                    • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

                      @jon AFAIK the only way for third parties to sell any TER is through SNCF. So whatever they have is what third parties (who are connected to SNCF Connect API’s) will sell.

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                      @stefanlindbohm is there a API for Grand Est TERs?

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        @stefanlindbohm is there a API for Grand Est TERs?

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                        @jon I doubt it. All goes through Connect from what I know.

                        (For third parties - obviously there are integrations used between the involved parties. But those might potentially be infeasible technically for a reseller to use.)

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                        • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

                          @jon I doubt it. All goes through Connect from what I know.

                          (For third parties - obviously there are integrations used between the involved parties. But those might potentially be infeasible technically for a reseller to use.)

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                          @stefanlindbohm but how does a SNCF ticket office sell it? There must be data on those trains in SNCF systems?

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                          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                            @stefanlindbohm but how does a SNCF ticket office sell it? There must be data on those trains in SNCF systems?

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                            @jon It might be sharing of the tariff data and SNCF issuing tickets for it independently? No third party can do that.

                            @jeanbaptistemarie Maybe you know if there are API’s resellers can use to connect directly to the régions? Or is it all through Connect/PAO?

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                            • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

                              @jon It might be sharing of the tariff data and SNCF issuing tickets for it independently? No third party can do that.

                              @jeanbaptistemarie Maybe you know if there are API’s resellers can use to connect directly to the régions? Or is it all through Connect/PAO?

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                              @stefanlindbohm @jeanbaptistemarie or is there a Grenze station in Connect data but their search is just too crap to find which Grenze that Bettembourg is beyond?

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                              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 32 - 5 May - Strasbourg - Rumelange - Kirchberg - Wiltz - Libramont - Bruxelles

                                New borders:
                                Rumelange 🇱🇺 - Ottange 🇫🇷
                                Benonchamps 🇧🇪 - Schimpach-Wampach 🇱🇺

                                A few dismantled lines at 🇱🇺 borders – to 🇫🇷 at Rumelange, then west of Wiltz towards 🇧🇪. And appropriately from Wiltz I will cycle through Bastogne, a town today without a railway station that is nevertheless rather famous for its bike race.

                                On the routes map:
                                https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#8/49.728030/6.058960

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                                @jon oh, Bastogne! The station building of Bastogne Sud still has a waiting room open for passengers (that now are waiting for the bus).

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                                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                  Something’s wrong. The TER is crawling along.

                                  Rather than tell us what’s wrong (which would be handy!) we’re being warned to not open the doors.

                                  Priorities!

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                                  Shit show of a railway. The TER to Luxembourg didn’t wait 1 min for the incoming TER from Strasbourg.

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                                    Shit show of a railway. The TER to Luxembourg didn’t wait 1 min for the incoming TER from Strasbourg.

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                                    Thanks for funding this, EU!

                                    Could you maybe also tell SNCF how to organise an effing timetable? 🤔

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                                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                      @stefanlindbohm @jeanbaptistemarie or is there a Grenze station in Connect data but their search is just too crap to find which Grenze that Bettembourg is beyond?

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                                      @jon Oh right, that might be why Connect fails to create a ticket. It might be looking for a tariff for Bettembourg frontier > Bettembourg, finding none and thus failing to create a price. While the région is using an inventory system (the one that creates tickets) that knows to just skip that segment.

                                      We don’t integrate directly with SNCF Connect, but if it is possible to select border points in the API it might be possible as a reseller to get a ticket that way.

                                      @jeanbaptistemarie

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                                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                        Thanks for funding this, EU!

                                        Could you maybe also tell SNCF how to organise an effing timetable? 🤔

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                                        So the plan now: blag my way onto a TGV (with Interrail), get to Thionville and bike from there to Rumelange

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                                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                          Thanks for funding this, EU!

                                          Could you maybe also tell SNCF how to organise an effing timetable? 🤔

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                                          @jon Already spray painted ?

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