Here's a post where the @vollaficationist clearly refers to themselves as being part of Volla and shares internal information which would only be known to someone working at Volla

grapheneos@grapheneos.social

We're opposing Volla's Unified Attestation API because it's fundamentally anti-competitive. They've failed to provide any justification for why there needs to be centralized verification through a new API built entirely on top of the Android hardware attestation API. Instead of engaging with our arguments against in good faith, they're repeatedly posting conspiracy theories about GrapheneOS claiming our project is a honey pot. Here's one of several examples.

Vollaficationist (@vollaficationist@mastodon.social)

@guilg@piaille.fr @GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social I suspect GOS is more, or different, from what they state they are. And from where do we always see v projection?

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grapheneos@grapheneos.social

Here's another example visible right above that one in the same sub-thread:

Vollaficationist (@vollaficationist@mastodon.social)

@GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social Will you really? And you didn't Google? Now I'm actually really getting worried about the status of GOS. Well, I wish you the best.

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grapheneos@grapheneos.social

Here's Volla trying to push the idea that our opposition to Unified Attestation is being funded by shady forces tied to the US government or tech companies:

Vollaficationist (@vollaficationist@mastodon.social)

@GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social @celeduc @guilg@piaille.fr @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu my dear friend, you did googlag-ware, and now Moto. It's quite amusing just how vigorously you defend American BigTech. Now disclose who is funding this social media frenzy.

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grapheneos@grapheneos.social

Here they are doing the same thing while pushing the idea we aren't who we say we are and weren't actually founded by a Canadian in Canada in 2014:

Vollaficationist (@vollaficationist@mastodon.social)

@GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social @celeduc @guilg@piaille.fr @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu I hoped you'd come to this. GOOGLAG is better, right?!? And iPhone... Well, I rest my case. Perhaps you are not who you claim to be? Sure, you're registered in Canada. Registered.

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grapheneos@grapheneos.social

Disingenuously misrepresenting our points about the anti-competitive nature of Unified Attestation while pushing their narrative that we're shady forces involved in US intelligence or something similar:

Vollaficationist (@vollaficationist@mastodon.social)

@skywalker2k17@nerdculture.de @Phobos1641@mstdn.jp @GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social but who is this dude, or many dudes, being kind of omnipresent (look it up) all over social media, 24/7¿ For me, today was my first day. A little shocked. Whatever, UA is open to anyone. And this fact is why the GOS dude is alleging, empty handed, that is illegal in Canada and EU. According to him/her it's probably globally illegal to contest googlag, right. You're welcome.

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grapheneos@grapheneos.social

Here they're attacking us for supporting secure devices and working with a major Android OEM towards a serious alternative to Pixels. Volla's devices aren't designed or made by them but rather made for them by an ODM. Their devices are bottom of the barrel MediaTek hardware with atrocious security. Those don't meet our standards. That's why we don't do it.

Vollaficationist (@vollaficationist@mastodon.social)

@celeduc @GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social @guilg@piaille.fr @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu Volla develops not only devices or OS, or AI and more. It's also developing a new ecosystem as well as an infrastructure. Full decoupling. A fully, autonomous communications system. GOS is a hundred thousand miles from this, right. They do googlag-ware and now even Moto, lol.

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As an example of what they're doing, Volla is partnered with the hide.me VPN company and bundles their software.

aissen@social.treehouse.systems

@GrapheneOS you're answering to and giving visibility to a troll account. Honestly you're better off writing well reviewed blog posts instead of losing time on social media.

grapheneos@grapheneos.social

@Aissen This account belongs to a Volla employee, not a troll. We know who owns the account.

grapheneos@grapheneos.social

Here are a series of posts from the Volla employee running @vollaficationist where they misrepresent their hardware as open source, inaccurately claim it's the most private/secure option with no basis and misrepresent white labelled devices from an ODM as being something far more:

grapheneos@grapheneos.social

RE: https://mastodon.social/@vollaficationist/116250746129876535

In several of these threads, Volla is trying to mislead people about what they can obtain elsewhere including with GrapheneOS to promote their products. This account was originally pretending to be a Volla supporter but recently switched to speaking on behalf of Volla and posting information only known to Volla internally including https://grapheneos.social/@vollaficationist@mastodon.social/116250746180349726. It very clearly belongs to Volla and is an example of how we've seen them doing marketing across platforms including jabs at GrapheneOS.

grapheneos@grapheneos.social

This is how these companies market their products. They mislead people into buying their products rather than using much more private and secure options.

iodé and Murena have been doing this on a much larger scale than Volla with much more underhanded tactics. They've heavily pushed the false narrative that GrapheneOS isn't usable by regular people, isn't compatible with enough apps and many other inaccurate claims. In reality, it has far broader app compatibility and is much more usable.

edcates@mastodon.social

@GrapheneOS But . . . but . . . they called it "googlag!"

GOOGLAG! Like, 83 times.

How is that not compelling rhetoric!?

grapheneos@grapheneos.social

Volla, Murena and iodé have come together to form the Unified Attestation initiative which will permit using their products while disallowing using alternatives not participating in it. This is fundamentally an anti-competitive system. These companies are consistently not honest about what they provide with users and are playing the same game with Unified Attestation pretending that it's an open system bringing people freedom when in reality it's designed to crush competition and openness.

grapheneos@grapheneos.social

Unified Attestation will only permit using the devices and operating systems participating in it. If GrapheneOS participated in it and was initially permitted, we would always be under the threat of the companies involved disallowing it. These companies and their governments could use this to exert pressure on GrapheneOS to do what they want. They can come up with arbitrary requirements for what's needed to obtain and preserve certification including requirements incompatible with our approach.

grapheneos@grapheneos.social

For example, any system like this is likely to end up requiring approving each release before it would be compatible with apps checking for certified devices. This means releases would be arbitrarily delayed for certification prior to users being able to receive them without losing compatibility with any apps adopting it. The companies involved can put arbitrary requirements in place which are fine with them but not with us. Governments can also begin to exert control over this system.

grapheneos@grapheneos.social

European governments would be able to block certifying GrapheneOS because we won't implement age verification, invasive client side AI scanning and other systems they're trying to impose on devices and operating systems. They can make it into a requirement to integrate these for certification. Volla, Murena and iodé are not privacy/security hardened operating systems. They do not try to protect users against authoritarian surveillance including via exploits. They do not share our goals/values.

grapheneos@grapheneos.social

These companies MUST NOT be allowed to successfully seize control over the compatibility of European banking/government apps with mobile devices via Unified Attestation. These companies have a view of privacy based around protecting people from Google and the US government rather than privacy from corporations and governments as a whole. They even market themselves as providing so-called digital sovereignty by giving European governments access and control instead of the American government.

grapheneos@grapheneos.social

GrapheneOS is based in Canada but we don't promote it based around it being based in Canada. We're willing to move our non-profit and operations elsewhere in the future if Canada ever passes laws incompatible with our goals. It's based in Canada because it was practical rather than as a core value or approach of GrapheneOS. If Canada goes down the same path as the EU and starts passing laws we cannot accept, then we'll leave Canada rather than ruining GrapheneOS. They won't do that with the EU.

grapheneos@grapheneos.social

GrapheneOS exists for the purpose of creating highly private and secure devices which are highly usable and compatible with all of the apps people want to use. GrapheneOS doesn't exist to provide a Canadian smartphone OS and eventually hardware. It's based in Canada because it was a pragmatic decision and we believe it's currently a better location for privacy projects than the US or EU. If that significantly changes, we're open to creating a non-profit elsewhere and moving our operations there.

grapheneos@grapheneos.social

GrapheneOS will fight against attempts by the Canadian government to take control over what people are allowed to use on their devices rather than building a system to enable it. Volla is building a system governments will be able to use to control which hardware and software people are allowed to use. The only usage of attestation should be to protect users as our Auditor app does, not to control what they can use as a growing subset of banking and government apps are doing. That should stop.

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Here's a post where the @vollaficationist clearly refers to themselves as being part of Volla and shares internal information which would only be known to someone working at Volla