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I've decided that the violin is not for me.

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  • plutarch@gotosocial.plutar.chP This user is from outside of this forum
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    I've decided that the violin is not for me.  At least not right now, and it won't be unless and until my existing issues with the left side of my neck and my right shoulder get dealt with.

    So:
    Does anyone have a recommendation for me, for a cello?  I want something that's going to hold up well enough for me to actually learn on, and then continue playing on; I want to get a decent amount of use out of it.  I also don't want to spend a huge amount on my first one.

    Thanks.

    Edit: silly typo.

    #Music #Cello #AskFedi

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    • plutarch@gotosocial.plutar.chP plutarch@gotosocial.plutar.ch

      I've decided that the violin is not for me.  At least not right now, and it won't be unless and until my existing issues with the left side of my neck and my right shoulder get dealt with.

      So:
      Does anyone have a recommendation for me, for a cello?  I want something that's going to hold up well enough for me to actually learn on, and then continue playing on; I want to get a decent amount of use out of it.  I also don't want to spend a huge amount on my first one.

      Thanks.

      Edit: silly typo.

      #Music #Cello #AskFedi

      bammerlaan@mastodon.nlB This user is from outside of this forum
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      @plutarch Usually, for older beginners, the double bass is considered an "easier" starting point. Takes more space, though. But you'll be very popular with amateur orchestras in your region in no time 😅

      The violin is definitely not a very suitable instrument to start at an "older" age. I started when I was five, and I really needed about ten years to get to a level where I could really play in good ensembles 🙈

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      • bammerlaan@mastodon.nlB bammerlaan@mastodon.nl

        @plutarch Usually, for older beginners, the double bass is considered an "easier" starting point. Takes more space, though. But you'll be very popular with amateur orchestras in your region in no time 😅

        The violin is definitely not a very suitable instrument to start at an "older" age. I started when I was five, and I really needed about ten years to get to a level where I could really play in good ensembles 🙈

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        @bammerlaan

        Ooh, I hadn't even considered double bass; thank you.  Which do you honestly think would be easier for someone in terms of existing neck and/or shoulder pain, cello or double bass?

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        • plutarch@gotosocial.plutar.chP plutarch@gotosocial.plutar.ch

          @bammerlaan

          Ooh, I hadn't even considered double bass; thank you.  Which do you honestly think would be easier for someone in terms of existing neck and/or shoulder pain, cello or double bass?

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          @plutarch Hard to say... I'll have to ask my partner, but I think in general the more ergonomic instrument is the cello. The bass does need to be bowed more from the shoulder, as I recall.

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          • bammerlaan@mastodon.nlB bammerlaan@mastodon.nl

            @plutarch Hard to say... I'll have to ask my partner, but I think in general the more ergonomic instrument is the cello. The bass does need to be bowed more from the shoulder, as I recall.

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            @bammerlaan @plutarch for double bass, you also need to consider transport, if you plan on taking it anywhere at all. Not all cars are equally double bass friendly. If you travel by air with it, you’ll need a ($) hard case and trust the luggage handlers / hope it doesn’t get lost or pay for a seat on the plane for your instrument. Also, consider the ergonomics of carrying it - that’s often done on the shoulder, but there are also wheeled cases

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            • hutterer@mastodon.socialH hutterer@mastodon.social

              @bammerlaan @plutarch for double bass, you also need to consider transport, if you plan on taking it anywhere at all. Not all cars are equally double bass friendly. If you travel by air with it, you’ll need a ($) hard case and trust the luggage handlers / hope it doesn’t get lost or pay for a seat on the plane for your instrument. Also, consider the ergonomics of carrying it - that’s often done on the shoulder, but there are also wheeled cases

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              @hutterer @bammerlaan @plutarch wow, didn't know you had to consider car size for instruments!

              plutarch@gotosocial.plutar.chP mathaetaes@infosec.exchangeM johntimaeus@infosec.exchangeJ bammerlaan@mastodon.nlB kinsale42@mstdn.gamesK 5 Replies Last reply
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              • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

                @hutterer @bammerlaan @plutarch wow, didn't know you had to consider car size for instruments!

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                @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan

                Other than a piano, even.  Sheesh.  

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                • plutarch@gotosocial.plutar.chP plutarch@gotosocial.plutar.ch

                  @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan

                  Other than a piano, even.  Sheesh.  

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                  @plutarch @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan there are electric double basses. Or just consider an electric bass guitar and a small amp. For most practice, sitting is fine with a foot rest and there is classical music available.

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                  • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

                    @hutterer @bammerlaan @plutarch wow, didn't know you had to consider car size for instruments!

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                    @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan @plutarch I see you ‘ve never been a drummer 🙂

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                    • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

                      @hutterer @bammerlaan @plutarch wow, didn't know you had to consider car size for instruments!

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                      @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan @plutarch

                      We always have to have a vehicle capable of at least one double bass, 1/2 cubic meter of drums, two suitcases, dance boards (which thankfully breakdown flat), ice chest, and light instruments on top.

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                      • rsanders@sfba.socialR rsanders@sfba.social

                        @plutarch @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan there are electric double basses. Or just consider an electric bass guitar and a small amp. For most practice, sitting is fine with a foot rest and there is classical music available.

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                        @rsanders @plutarch @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan

                        I haven't run across an electric bass that sounds good with a bow.
                        The acoustic-electric travel basses that feel right and don't take two days to settle after set up start at $30k. And still sound like a stick with strings.

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                          @rsanders @plutarch @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan

                          I haven't run across an electric bass that sounds good with a bow.
                          The acoustic-electric travel basses that feel right and don't take two days to settle after set up start at $30k. And still sound like a stick with strings.

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                          @johntimaeus @rsanders @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan Wondering about the heavy metal electric bass and what effects pedals are involved, I guess I should go look on YouTube. 🤪

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                            @johntimaeus @rsanders @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan Wondering about the heavy metal electric bass and what effects pedals are involved, I guess I should go look on YouTube. 🤪

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                            @johntimaeus @rsanders @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan In a strange convergence of my follows...

                            Here's some young person with a cello on a bicycle!!

                            Phil (ascentale) (@ascentale@sfba.social)

                            @bikenite@fedigroups.social A8-2. I also saw this on the way home this week. A parent, riding with kid on the back of an Xtracycle long-tail, with an electric conversion. The kid is carrying a cello(?) as a backpack. https://youtube.com/shorts/BIkPQl39V8w?feature=share #BikeNite

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                            • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

                              @johntimaeus @rsanders @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan Wondering about the heavy metal electric bass and what effects pedals are involved, I guess I should go look on YouTube. 🤪

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                              @ai6yr @rsanders @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan

                              If you want to use a bow (which I do) the bridge needs a curve on it...most electric sticks don't have half the room needed.

                              Even a crappy student-grade upright, well set up, has good resonance. An electric basically makes a sine wave. You can add flavor with pedals, but it's always a little dry.

                              Same difference as a 1910-1980 stienway grand and the best nord keyboard you can buy.
                              It sounds the same over crappy Bluetooth eatbuds.
                              But if you get any closer to the music, you can tell the difference.

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                                @ai6yr @rsanders @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan

                                If you want to use a bow (which I do) the bridge needs a curve on it...most electric sticks don't have half the room needed.

                                Even a crappy student-grade upright, well set up, has good resonance. An electric basically makes a sine wave. You can add flavor with pedals, but it's always a little dry.

                                Same difference as a 1910-1980 stienway grand and the best nord keyboard you can buy.
                                It sounds the same over crappy Bluetooth eatbuds.
                                But if you get any closer to the music, you can tell the difference.

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                                @johntimaeus @ai6yr @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan ah, sorry, just mentioned it as one of the bassists I know uses one for practice when not using a bass guitar.

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                                • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

                                  @hutterer @bammerlaan @plutarch wow, didn't know you had to consider car size for instruments!

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                                  @ai6yr @hutterer @plutarch You obviously don't know any harpists then 🙈

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                                  • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

                                    @johntimaeus @rsanders @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan In a strange convergence of my follows...

                                    Here's some young person with a cello on a bicycle!!

                                    Phil (ascentale) (@ascentale@sfba.social)

                                    @bikenite@fedigroups.social A8-2. I also saw this on the way home this week. A parent, riding with kid on the back of an Xtracycle long-tail, with an electric conversion. The kid is carrying a cello(?) as a backpack. https://youtube.com/shorts/BIkPQl39V8w?feature=share #BikeNite

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                                    @ai6yr @johntimaeus @rsanders @plutarch @hutterer Not an extremely rare sight here in the Netherlands 😅

                                    That bicycle infrastructure looks like a death trap though.

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                                    • johntimaeus@infosec.exchangeJ johntimaeus@infosec.exchange

                                      @ai6yr @rsanders @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan

                                      If you want to use a bow (which I do) the bridge needs a curve on it...most electric sticks don't have half the room needed.

                                      Even a crappy student-grade upright, well set up, has good resonance. An electric basically makes a sine wave. You can add flavor with pedals, but it's always a little dry.

                                      Same difference as a 1910-1980 stienway grand and the best nord keyboard you can buy.
                                      It sounds the same over crappy Bluetooth eatbuds.
                                      But if you get any closer to the music, you can tell the difference.

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                                      @johntimaeus @ai6yr @rsanders @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan

                                      Played cello as a kid. 100% Team Bow

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                                        @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan @plutarch

                                        We always have to have a vehicle capable of at least one double bass, 1/2 cubic meter of drums, two suitcases, dance boards (which thankfully breakdown flat), ice chest, and light instruments on top.

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                                        @johntimaeus @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan @plutarch despite how most vehicles have grown in size, compare old Camry/Accord to modern Corolla/Civic actual cargo capacity is not so great. My '71 Impala sedan had an enormous trunk, almost enough space under the hood for aux engine, and big cabin. Though no crumple zones, which is why I got so many messages left under wiper saying call if wanted to sell. Demolition drivers wanted it.

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                                        • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

                                          @johntimaeus @rsanders @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan In a strange convergence of my follows...

                                          Here's some young person with a cello on a bicycle!!

                                          Phil (ascentale) (@ascentale@sfba.social)

                                          @bikenite@fedigroups.social A8-2. I also saw this on the way home this week. A parent, riding with kid on the back of an Xtracycle long-tail, with an electric conversion. The kid is carrying a cello(?) as a backpack. https://youtube.com/shorts/BIkPQl39V8w?feature=share #BikeNite

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                                          @ai6yr

                                          I threw a cheap guitar in a hiking backpack and road 4 miles to my college class - and then back home after, twice a week - for a summer semester.

                                          I don't remember it raining any of those days. Lucky...

                                          Got the credits.

                                          Gotta do, what you gotta do...

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