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  • charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.twC charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.tw

    It is 222 A.D. You are the transgender Empress Elagabalus, "call me not a man for I am a woman". Transitioning is new and experimental.

    It is 1776. You are "Public Universal Friend", a transmasculine Quaker. Transitioning is new and experimental.

    It is 1906. You are Karl M. Baer, a trans man undergoing sex reassignment. Transitioning is new and experimental.

    It is 1930. You are Lili Elbe. Transitioning is new and experimental. (to be fair you did get a uterus transplant.)

    It is 1966. You are in Compton's Cafeteria with a bunch of other trans people when the owners call the cops to throw you all out. You riot. Transitioning is new and experimental.

    It is 1969. You are Marsha "pay it no mind" Johnson. You are in a mob-run gay bar when the cops attack. You throw a brick. There is a bit of a scuffle. Transitioning is new and experimental.

    It is 2026. You are a transgender adult or child listening to the NYT and British Guardian claim this is the first generation anyone has tried transitioning in. Transitioning is new and experimental.

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    #61

    I can tell you I didn't learn any of that growing up. I followed along with gay rights because I lived near San Francisco. All I knew about transitioning was a movie ad in the early 70s about a transwoman in Sweden, and they made it sound like the first surgical transition ever.

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    • charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.twC charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.tw

      It is 222 A.D. You are the transgender Empress Elagabalus, "call me not a man for I am a woman". Transitioning is new and experimental.

      It is 1776. You are "Public Universal Friend", a transmasculine Quaker. Transitioning is new and experimental.

      It is 1906. You are Karl M. Baer, a trans man undergoing sex reassignment. Transitioning is new and experimental.

      It is 1930. You are Lili Elbe. Transitioning is new and experimental. (to be fair you did get a uterus transplant.)

      It is 1966. You are in Compton's Cafeteria with a bunch of other trans people when the owners call the cops to throw you all out. You riot. Transitioning is new and experimental.

      It is 1969. You are Marsha "pay it no mind" Johnson. You are in a mob-run gay bar when the cops attack. You throw a brick. There is a bit of a scuffle. Transitioning is new and experimental.

      It is 2026. You are a transgender adult or child listening to the NYT and British Guardian claim this is the first generation anyone has tried transitioning in. Transitioning is new and experimental.

      mushi@col.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #62

      @CharlotteEowyn you are a priestess of sybil, in ancient greece, you cut off your penis and nailed it to the door of a random townspeople so they would give you female clothing, transitioning is new and experimental

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      • dragonfi@social.jsteuernagel.deD dragonfi@social.jsteuernagel.de

        @miriamrobern @CharlotteEowyn If you happen to already have this in a detailed article with citations, it would be nice to wave it around whenever the topic comes up.

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        #63

        @dragonfi @CharlotteEowyn sadly i just posted it to fedi. i didnt have the bandwidth to really do it up for proper publication.

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        • canleaf@mastodon.socialC canleaf@mastodon.social

          @CharlotteEowyn It is 2023. A judge determines that trans healthcare is not covered. We are back at: It is too new and experimental. Trans people get more bureacracy. And people discuss phony cass retorts and ban HRT.

          Post pandemic brought a new kind of fascism to Germany. Two trans people were injured that badly that one has consequences her entire life long. Another trans man died in Munster. Hate crime protection is too new and “antifreedom”.

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          @CharlotteEowyn it is the 1800s. Aboriginal peoples worship gay, bi and trans gender people and gods. But soon British ships conquer the world and hold it hostage for ages. Colonies like Singapore, Hong Kong, Australia, India, Uganda, Bangladesh and Pakistan declare gay and trans illegal. Everything LGBT is all of sudden new and experimental. Or a capital offence. British shitbags carried Section 28 into the world and censor AIDS crisis.

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          • miriamrobern@dice.campM miriamrobern@dice.camp

            @dragonfi @CharlotteEowyn sadly i just posted it to fedi. i didnt have the bandwidth to really do it up for proper publication.

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            #65

            @miriamrobern @CharlotteEowyn Can you share the link? (I could probably go trough your timeline, but you probably know better where to look.)

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            • charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.twC charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.tw

              It is 222 A.D. You are the transgender Empress Elagabalus, "call me not a man for I am a woman". Transitioning is new and experimental.

              It is 1776. You are "Public Universal Friend", a transmasculine Quaker. Transitioning is new and experimental.

              It is 1906. You are Karl M. Baer, a trans man undergoing sex reassignment. Transitioning is new and experimental.

              It is 1930. You are Lili Elbe. Transitioning is new and experimental. (to be fair you did get a uterus transplant.)

              It is 1966. You are in Compton's Cafeteria with a bunch of other trans people when the owners call the cops to throw you all out. You riot. Transitioning is new and experimental.

              It is 1969. You are Marsha "pay it no mind" Johnson. You are in a mob-run gay bar when the cops attack. You throw a brick. There is a bit of a scuffle. Transitioning is new and experimental.

              It is 2026. You are a transgender adult or child listening to the NYT and British Guardian claim this is the first generation anyone has tried transitioning in. Transitioning is new and experimental.

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              #66

              @CharlotteEowyn And these are just some Western examples. Let's talk about the hijra of India, who have been liturgical drama players for thousands of years. Or the fa'a'fafine of Aoteroa. Or the two-spirit folks in the Turtle Island indigenous communities.

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              • dragonfi@social.jsteuernagel.deD dragonfi@social.jsteuernagel.de

                @miriamrobern @CharlotteEowyn Can you share the link? (I could probably go trough your timeline, but you probably know better where to look.)

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                #67

                @dragonfi @CharlotteEowyn i actually have no idea sorry 😞

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                • charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.twC charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.tw

                  It is 222 A.D. You are the transgender Empress Elagabalus, "call me not a man for I am a woman". Transitioning is new and experimental.

                  It is 1776. You are "Public Universal Friend", a transmasculine Quaker. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                  It is 1906. You are Karl M. Baer, a trans man undergoing sex reassignment. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                  It is 1930. You are Lili Elbe. Transitioning is new and experimental. (to be fair you did get a uterus transplant.)

                  It is 1966. You are in Compton's Cafeteria with a bunch of other trans people when the owners call the cops to throw you all out. You riot. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                  It is 1969. You are Marsha "pay it no mind" Johnson. You are in a mob-run gay bar when the cops attack. You throw a brick. There is a bit of a scuffle. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                  It is 2026. You are a transgender adult or child listening to the NYT and British Guardian claim this is the first generation anyone has tried transitioning in. Transitioning is new and experimental.

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                  #68

                  @CharlotteEowyn
                  “You are Orlando.”

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                  • charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.twC charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.tw

                    It is 222 A.D. You are the transgender Empress Elagabalus, "call me not a man for I am a woman". Transitioning is new and experimental.

                    It is 1776. You are "Public Universal Friend", a transmasculine Quaker. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                    It is 1906. You are Karl M. Baer, a trans man undergoing sex reassignment. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                    It is 1930. You are Lili Elbe. Transitioning is new and experimental. (to be fair you did get a uterus transplant.)

                    It is 1966. You are in Compton's Cafeteria with a bunch of other trans people when the owners call the cops to throw you all out. You riot. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                    It is 1969. You are Marsha "pay it no mind" Johnson. You are in a mob-run gay bar when the cops attack. You throw a brick. There is a bit of a scuffle. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                    It is 2026. You are a transgender adult or child listening to the NYT and British Guardian claim this is the first generation anyone has tried transitioning in. Transitioning is new and experimental.

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                    #69

                    SAME AS IT EVER WAS.

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                    • charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.twC charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.tw

                      It is 222 A.D. You are the transgender Empress Elagabalus, "call me not a man for I am a woman". Transitioning is new and experimental.

                      It is 1776. You are "Public Universal Friend", a transmasculine Quaker. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                      It is 1906. You are Karl M. Baer, a trans man undergoing sex reassignment. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                      It is 1930. You are Lili Elbe. Transitioning is new and experimental. (to be fair you did get a uterus transplant.)

                      It is 1966. You are in Compton's Cafeteria with a bunch of other trans people when the owners call the cops to throw you all out. You riot. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                      It is 1969. You are Marsha "pay it no mind" Johnson. You are in a mob-run gay bar when the cops attack. You throw a brick. There is a bit of a scuffle. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                      It is 2026. You are a transgender adult or child listening to the NYT and British Guardian claim this is the first generation anyone has tried transitioning in. Transitioning is new and experimental.

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                      #70

                      @CharlotteEowyn it's 2000 BCE. You're a ritual priestess. Transitioning is new and experimental.

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                      • mgorny@mastodon.com.plM mgorny@mastodon.com.pl

                        @CharlotteEowyn, the only thing really old and tested thoroughly is being ignorant.

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                        #71

                        @mgorny @CharlotteEowyn Can I quote you on that?

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                        • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

                          @mgorny @CharlotteEowyn Can I quote you on that?

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                          @drwho @CharlotteEowyn, sure.

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                          • ratsnakegames@mastodon.socialR ratsnakegames@mastodon.social

                            @nelson @CharlotteEowyn i don't think it was OP's intent to create a full list of every historical trans person

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                            @ratsnakegames @nelson @CharlotteEowyn Oh, you're a trans ally? Name every trans person

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                            • chamomile@furry.engineerC chamomile@furry.engineer

                              @ratsnakegames @nelson @CharlotteEowyn Oh, you're a trans ally? Name every trans person

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                              @chamomile @ratsnakegames @CharlotteEowyn

                              uhhh, luna, uhmm.... amber

                              that's gotta be like 32% of them

                              /j

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                              • dhfir@suya.placeD dhfir@suya.place
                                @CharlotteEowyn wait, wasn't Public Universal Friend an enby?
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                                @dhfir @CharlotteEowyn I believe so. They maintained the person with their dead name had in fact died, and they were sent from heaven as someone neither male nor female.

                                You may be confused, because the person with their dead name was assigned female at birth, but displayed a number of behaviors that people of their time ascribed to males.

                                And you can be "neither male nor female", assigned one or the other at birth, and not be trans anything. Some enbys do not identify as trans: after all trans comes from a root word meaning "on the other side".

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                                • mgorny@mastodon.com.plM mgorny@mastodon.com.pl

                                  @drwho @CharlotteEowyn, sure.

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                                  @mgorny @CharlotteEowyn Thank you kindly.

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                                  • vallaferescense@furry.engineerV vallaferescense@furry.engineer

                                    @Willowbriar @CharlotteEowyn

                                    The year is 2026, you are me. Held off chemically transitioning because you want a more androgenious/feminine appearance after 30+ years of trying to just keep yourself from being too masculine. An engineer who is now lied about and threatened by social media misinformation. Transitioning is new and experimental they say while you have access to historical and scientific evidence to the contrary.

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                                    @Vallaferescense
                                    🫂
                                    @Willowbriar @CharlotteEowyn

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                                    • charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.twC charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.tw

                                      It is 222 A.D. You are the transgender Empress Elagabalus, "call me not a man for I am a woman". Transitioning is new and experimental.

                                      It is 1776. You are "Public Universal Friend", a transmasculine Quaker. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                                      It is 1906. You are Karl M. Baer, a trans man undergoing sex reassignment. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                                      It is 1930. You are Lili Elbe. Transitioning is new and experimental. (to be fair you did get a uterus transplant.)

                                      It is 1966. You are in Compton's Cafeteria with a bunch of other trans people when the owners call the cops to throw you all out. You riot. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                                      It is 1969. You are Marsha "pay it no mind" Johnson. You are in a mob-run gay bar when the cops attack. You throw a brick. There is a bit of a scuffle. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                                      It is 2026. You are a transgender adult or child listening to the NYT and British Guardian claim this is the first generation anyone has tried transitioning in. Transitioning is new and experimental.

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                                      @CharlotteEowyn I'm feeling like Doctor Manhattan.

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                                      • charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.twC charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.tw

                                        It is 222 A.D. You are the transgender Empress Elagabalus, "call me not a man for I am a woman". Transitioning is new and experimental.

                                        It is 1776. You are "Public Universal Friend", a transmasculine Quaker. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                                        It is 1906. You are Karl M. Baer, a trans man undergoing sex reassignment. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                                        It is 1930. You are Lili Elbe. Transitioning is new and experimental. (to be fair you did get a uterus transplant.)

                                        It is 1966. You are in Compton's Cafeteria with a bunch of other trans people when the owners call the cops to throw you all out. You riot. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                                        It is 1969. You are Marsha "pay it no mind" Johnson. You are in a mob-run gay bar when the cops attack. You throw a brick. There is a bit of a scuffle. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                                        It is 2026. You are a transgender adult or child listening to the NYT and British Guardian claim this is the first generation anyone has tried transitioning in. Transitioning is new and experimental.

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                                        #79

                                        @CharlotteEowyn Bookmarked for future reference.

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                                        • miriamrobern@dice.campM miriamrobern@dice.camp

                                          @CharlotteEowyn i did a relatively thorough media search and purported surprise at the existence of trans people crops up every eighteen months back to the invention of newspapers

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                                          @miriamrobern @CharlotteEowyn that's a great demonstration of the epistemology of ignorance, whereby cis white people can have a personal revelation once or twice per generation, every generation forever without ever having to actually change anything.

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