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Leftists talking positively about Dune's butlerian jihad sound basically identical to techbros talking positively about palantíri/the ring/etc.

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  • nytpu@tilde.zoneN This user is from outside of this forum
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    Leftists talking positively about Dune's butlerian jihad sound basically identical to techbros talking positively about palantíri/the ring/etc. in The Lord of the Rings IMO

    Yes, heavy use of religious control, feudalism, and the caste-like "every person in their proper place" is a great situation, definitely. "Let me just ignore everything that even the most superficial, non-interpretative reader would pick up because it's convenient reinforcement for my sociopolitical opinions"

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    • nytpu@tilde.zoneN nytpu@tilde.zone

      Leftists talking positively about Dune's butlerian jihad sound basically identical to techbros talking positively about palantíri/the ring/etc. in The Lord of the Rings IMO

      Yes, heavy use of religious control, feudalism, and the caste-like "every person in their proper place" is a great situation, definitely. "Let me just ignore everything that even the most superficial, non-interpretative reader would pick up because it's convenient reinforcement for my sociopolitical opinions"

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      @nytpu stupid fucking morons being against being a brain in a biomechanical war machine shaped like a dragon of course they are

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      • nytpu@tilde.zoneN nytpu@tilde.zone

        Leftists talking positively about Dune's butlerian jihad sound basically identical to techbros talking positively about palantíri/the ring/etc. in The Lord of the Rings IMO

        Yes, heavy use of religious control, feudalism, and the caste-like "every person in their proper place" is a great situation, definitely. "Let me just ignore everything that even the most superficial, non-interpretative reader would pick up because it's convenient reinforcement for my sociopolitical opinions"

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        @nytpu I'm not sure I've ever seen a leftist praise the feudal society in Dune (for obvious ideological reasons). I think some leftists are somewhat jokingly in favor of the anti-thinking-machines taboo specifically (which is also a silly position since it includes every kind of computer no matter how useful and not just "killer robots"). But I don't think anyone with left-wing beliefs wants Dune's political system because it is so obviously in violation of every left-wing belief

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          @nytpu I'm not sure I've ever seen a leftist praise the feudal society in Dune (for obvious ideological reasons). I think some leftists are somewhat jokingly in favor of the anti-thinking-machines taboo specifically (which is also a silly position since it includes every kind of computer no matter how useful and not just "killer robots"). But I don't think anyone with left-wing beliefs wants Dune's political system because it is so obviously in violation of every left-wing belief

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          @csb6 Granted, the Butlerian Jihad as imagined by Frank Herbert seems to have been less of the "Killer Robots" and more that people suborned themselves and their thoughts and desires to the thinking machines to a point where the robots had such control they didn't NEED to kill them, because ultimately they'd turned all their autonomy over to whatever the machines said. Humanity essentially auto-enslaved themselves to the thinking machines because it was easier than having to think for themselves.

          Which, considering the number of people who now consult ChatGPT for basic life shit...

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          • nytpu@tilde.zoneN nytpu@tilde.zone

            Leftists talking positively about Dune's butlerian jihad sound basically identical to techbros talking positively about palantíri/the ring/etc. in The Lord of the Rings IMO

            Yes, heavy use of religious control, feudalism, and the caste-like "every person in their proper place" is a great situation, definitely. "Let me just ignore everything that even the most superficial, non-interpretative reader would pick up because it's convenient reinforcement for my sociopolitical opinions"

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            @nytpu
            Thou shalt not: make a machine I
            In the image of a human mind

            This shalt: make a human mind in the image of a machine

            Maybe Dr. Yueh was so easy to manipulate because he did so many drugs it made his brain a vital signs monitor. That’s what Suk training is!

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