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When we fight, we win

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  • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

    When we fight, we win

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    geofftc@mas.toG This user is from outside of this forum
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    geofftc@mas.to
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    @mttaggart

    The standard reply from these guys is always "Upon further reflection, and from feedback from our community, we have realized that fucking with your shit was the wrong call." Same with that Grammerly AI-journalist thing.

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    • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

      When we fight, we win

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      : Letting Copilot alter others' PRs was the wrong judgment call, says product manager

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      nullagent@partyon.xyzN This user is from outside of this forum
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      nullagent@partyon.xyz
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      #11

      What in the fresh hell?

      @mttaggart

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      • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

        When we fight, we win

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        kevinrns@mstdn.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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        kevinrns@mstdn.social
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        @mttaggart

        Now retreat. Get the hell out. Make a new place that can't be seized by our lords.

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        • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

          When we fight, we win

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          GitHub backs down, kills Copilot PR ‘tips’ after backlash

          : Letting Copilot alter others' PRs was the wrong judgment call, says product manager

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          phil_stevens@mastodon.nzP This user is from outside of this forum
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          phil_stevens@mastodon.nz
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          #13

          @mttaggart It's still a good day to spin up a Forgejo box and #gitGone

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          • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

            When we fight, we win

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            GitHub backs down, kills Copilot PR ‘tips’ after backlash

            : Letting Copilot alter others' PRs was the wrong judgment call, says product manager

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            glitzersachen@hachyderm.io
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            @mttaggart

            ... until you loose. Frankly, this always follows the same pattern: Provocative change, backing down and after this gauging of the public opinion slowly boiling frog release of the very same feature over a couple of months or years. While our attention is elsewhere.

            We only win, if the perpetrators cannot commit future deeds. Going back to the status quo is no win, because the status quo can be attacked again.

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              @mttaggart

              ... until you loose. Frankly, this always follows the same pattern: Provocative change, backing down and after this gauging of the public opinion slowly boiling frog release of the very same feature over a couple of months or years. While our attention is elsewhere.

              We only win, if the perpetrators cannot commit future deeds. Going back to the status quo is no win, because the status quo can be attacked again.

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              glitzersachen@hachyderm.io
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              @mttaggart

              "Tim Rogers, principal product manager for Copilot at GitHub, took to Hacker News on Monday to say that giving Copilot the ability to add "tips" to PRs was intended "to help developers learn new ways to use the agent in their workflow."

              Hearing feedback from the community following Manson's post and the kerfuffle it generated, Rogers said, has helped him realize that "on reflection," letting Copilot make changes to PRs written by a human without their knowledge "was the wrong judgement call." "

              What a dishonest take. "help developers". LOL.

              "Was the wrong judgement call".

              No. It was an eklatant breach of trust. From which there is no painless recovery. Full stop.

              You (remaining clients of github) should just refuse to do business with Github until Tim Rogers has been fired ignominiously (without a golden parachute).

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              • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                When we fight, we win

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                oberstenzian@mastodon.social
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                @mttaggart For now.

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                • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                  When we fight, we win

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                  @mttaggart sent from my iphone

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                  • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                    When we fight, we win

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                    burritosommelier@techhub.social
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                    @mttaggart they’ve proven they can do whatever the fuck they want and not lose enough customers to meaningfully change their behavior (beyond just trying again a bit later more subtly) - just a quick little “oops, our bad - we thought we were helping and you’d appreciate this!”

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                    • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                      When we fight, we win

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                      #19

                      @mttaggart I mean, to be fair they asked an llm to update their message. They get what they asked for I guess?

                      They only removed it once they realised it's the best ad against using these tools they could possibly have created.

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                      • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                        When we fight, we win

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                        @mttaggart Shocking that it even happened

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                          @Su_G corporate speak. non-apology-apology.

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                          • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                            When we fight, we win

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                            : Letting Copilot alter others' PRs was the wrong judgment call, says product manager

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                            (www.theregister.com)

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                            @mttaggart

                            Yet another reason to use an alternative

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