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  3. Does that make people in the UK wince at all... A power socket right next to a tap... I know other countries seem far less worried, but wow...

Does that make people in the UK wince at all... A power socket right next to a tap... I know other countries seem far less worried, but wow...

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  • revk@toot.me.ukR revk@toot.me.uk

    Does that make people in the UK wince at all... A power socket right next to a tap... I know other countries seem far less worried, but wow...

    ryanteck@fosstodon.orgR This user is from outside of this forum
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    @revk It looks / feels very odd. However at the same time if I knew the property had decent electrics with RCDs / RCBOs I'm not sure I would be worried.

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    • revk@toot.me.ukR revk@toot.me.uk

      Does that make people in the UK wince at all... A power socket right next to a tap... I know other countries seem far less worried, but wow...

      jackeric@beige.partyJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      @revk why would you need to have four 240V devices and so many USB devices right next to the sink

      (btw... it's "wince")

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      • jackeric@beige.partyJ jackeric@beige.party

        @revk why would you need to have four 240V devices and so many USB devices right next to the sink

        (btw... it's "wince")

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        @revk also I've never seen push-toggle power switches on an extension lead, probably for good reason... and the "toggle standby power" symbol is blatantly incorrect for this. avoid avoid avoid

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        • jamesb@fedi.duckduckpigeon.co.ukJ jamesb@fedi.duckduckpigeon.co.uk

          @revk It's not against the regulations but I'd be wary of it - mainly because I get water everywhere.

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          @jamesb @revk Really? I thought you weren't allowed to have sockets within touching distance?

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          • revk@toot.me.ukR revk@toot.me.uk

            Does that make people in the UK wince at all... A power socket right next to a tap... I know other countries seem far less worried, but wow...

            leonerd@fosstodon.orgL This user is from outside of this forum
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            @revk Yes I'm feeling nervous just looking at it. That said I don't think the terrible perspective on the photo composition job is helping matters

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            • penguin42@mastodon.org.ukP penguin42@mastodon.org.uk

              @jamesb @revk Really? I thought you weren't allowed to have sockets within touching distance?

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              @penguin42 It's within 3m of zone 1 in a bathroom but there's no regulation for kitchens - only a recommendation in the building regs of 300mm. @revk

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              • revk@toot.me.ukR revk@toot.me.uk

                Does that make people in the UK wince at all... A power socket right next to a tap... I know other countries seem far less worried, but wow...

                urbandjent@metalhead.clubU This user is from outside of this forum
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                @revk It's horrifying! They didn't leave space to put the little pokey hole (with the plastic teeth) to hold ya tea towel 🫣🤔🤭

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                • revk@toot.me.ukR revk@toot.me.uk

                  Does that make people in the UK wince at all... A power socket right next to a tap... I know other countries seem far less worried, but wow...

                  etchedpixels@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @revk Feels the same as when I saw someone with their battery and inverter next to the loo.

                  Instinctively it's wrong but with modern electrical safety stuff it should be fine.

                  (and likewise an outdoor rated battery install in the bog is different but even if you can't aim straight should be safe)

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                  • jamesb@fedi.duckduckpigeon.co.ukJ jamesb@fedi.duckduckpigeon.co.uk

                    @penguin42 It's within 3m of zone 1 in a bathroom but there's no regulation for kitchens - only a recommendation in the building regs of 300mm. @revk

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                    @jamesb oh I thought it was 60cm to the side at least?

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                    • jamesb@fedi.duckduckpigeon.co.ukJ jamesb@fedi.duckduckpigeon.co.uk

                      @penguin42 It's within 3m of zone 1 in a bathroom but there's no regulation for kitchens - only a recommendation in the building regs of 300mm. @revk

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                      @jamesb @penguin42 @revk Indeed.

                      However, electrical equipment also needs to be installed in accordance with the manufacturer's instructions. Some industry guidance says 300 or 600mm (I forget which) from basins so manufacturers might follow those.

                      Similarly, sockets are allowed in large-enough bathrooms but the manufacturer might say not in wet rooms, whatever that means.

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                      • revk@toot.me.ukR revk@toot.me.uk

                        Does that make people in the UK wince at all... A power socket right next to a tap... I know other countries seem far less worried, but wow...

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                        Of course not, it's clearly waterproof
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                        • tinmouth@infosec.exchangeT tinmouth@infosec.exchange

                          @jamesb oh I thought it was 60cm to the side at least?

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                          @jamesb maybe I'm misremembering 2 things at once here 😂

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                          • jackeric@beige.partyJ jackeric@beige.party

                            @revk also I've never seen push-toggle power switches on an extension lead, probably for good reason... and the "toggle standby power" symbol is blatantly incorrect for this. avoid avoid avoid

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                            @jackeric @revk Yeah, I also noticed the push buttons rather than rocker switches seeming very odd, and wondered whether that would actually conform to electrical regs?

                            These days •so much• random foreign-designed stuff is sold on various online tat bazaars and I suspect the safety authorities (do we even still have a suitably resourced body?) are just unable to whack-a-mole them all 😔😟

                            Then you see all the 1-star reviews: “My new charger melted and suddenly caught fire after 2 months”… 🤨😱

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                            • etchedpixels@mastodon.socialE etchedpixels@mastodon.social

                              @revk Feels the same as when I saw someone with their battery and inverter next to the loo.

                              Instinctively it's wrong but with modern electrical safety stuff it should be fine.

                              (and likewise an outdoor rated battery install in the bog is different but even if you can't aim straight should be safe)

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                              @etchedpixels @revk The “aim” comment is reminding me that I remember once reading on the internet somewhere about underground/metro trains somewhere which had pictorial warning signs 🚫 on the inter-car doors of a stick man “going about his business” after a few drinks and a lightning flash indicating the perils of the live rail within “target distance”! 🚷🚱

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                              • edavies@functional.cafeE edavies@functional.cafe

                                @jamesb @penguin42 @revk Indeed.

                                However, electrical equipment also needs to be installed in accordance with the manufacturer's instructions. Some industry guidance says 300 or 600mm (I forget which) from basins so manufacturers might follow those.

                                Similarly, sockets are allowed in large-enough bathrooms but the manufacturer might say not in wet rooms, whatever that means.

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                                @edavies @jamesb @revk Well in that case, that one has to be installed directly behind your tap in the scariest looking location.

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                                • revk@toot.me.ukR revk@toot.me.uk

                                  Does that make people in the UK wince at all... A power socket right next to a tap... I know other countries seem far less worried, but wow...

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                                  @revk One faulty piece of equipment, and those are ideal conditions to maximise injury.

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                                  • rupertreynolds@hachyderm.ioR rupertreynolds@hachyderm.io

                                    @revk One faulty piece of equipment, and those are ideal conditions to maximise injury.

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                                    @revk Oh, and the sockets will go gungey and the USB sockets will fail rapidly.

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                                    • ryanteck@fosstodon.orgR ryanteck@fosstodon.org

                                      @revk It looks / feels very odd. However at the same time if I knew the property had decent electrics with RCDs / RCBOs I'm not sure I would be worried.

                                      tony@toot.hoyle.me.ukT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @Ryanteck @revk Most people don't test their RCDs or even know they should.. It's not something I'd want a product to rely on.

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