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No, LLMs don’t “pose interesting philosophical questions”.

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  • aesthr@wandering.shopA This user is from outside of this forum
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    No, LLMs don’t “pose interesting philosophical questions”. You just haven’t studied any philosophy beyond “the trolley problem really makes you think, huh?”.

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      @veronica but we already knew that, it’s not really that interesting

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      • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

        No, LLMs don’t “pose interesting philosophical questions”. You just haven’t studied any philosophy beyond “the trolley problem really makes you think, huh?”.

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        @aesthr right? i feel like we're going through this period—most annoyingly in academia—of everyone in every field dedicating themselves to studying and discussing literally the most boring thing in the history of planet earth

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        • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

          No, LLMs don’t “pose interesting philosophical questions”. You just haven’t studied any philosophy beyond “the trolley problem really makes you think, huh?”.

          alienghic@timeloop.cafeA This user is from outside of this forum
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          @aesthr

          Does it matter that someone managed to build a philosophical zombie?

          https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/zombies/

          I think there was some debate over whether or not zombies could exist, but LLM chatbots seem very much like this kind of zombie.

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          • alienghic@timeloop.cafeA alienghic@timeloop.cafe

            @aesthr

            Does it matter that someone managed to build a philosophical zombie?

            https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/zombies/

            I think there was some debate over whether or not zombies could exist, but LLM chatbots seem very much like this kind of zombie.

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            @alienghic i don’t think they do, because they don’t behave like real people. They don’t even approach talking like real people.

            The whole point of the philosophical zombie is that the illusion is perfect.

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            • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

              @alienghic i don’t think they do, because they don’t behave like real people. They don’t even approach talking like real people.

              The whole point of the philosophical zombie is that the illusion is perfect.

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              @aesthr

              I guess the problem is a lot of humans are really easy to trick.

              Seems almost like they want to believe and are working to help the illusion.

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              • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

                No, LLMs don’t “pose interesting philosophical questions”. You just haven’t studied any philosophy beyond “the trolley problem really makes you think, huh?”.

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                @aesthr Its the same question since Von Neumann Machine first was a thing.
                Electric Math is weird and fast and can form any kind of symbols that mean all kinds of things to us...

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