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Yup. Every word.

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  • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

    Yup. Every word.

    Jayme Lawson says what all these Black people have been telling you. Including Black people with disabilities. Including Black people with Tourette syndrome. Including Black people with coprolalia.

    But people still don't want to hear it.

    https://m.youtube.com/shorts/MNsG0KXtEYg

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    @mekkaokereke every word indeed. Very well put.

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    • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

      Yup. Every word.

      Jayme Lawson says what all these Black people have been telling you. Including Black people with disabilities. Including Black people with Tourette syndrome. Including Black people with coprolalia.

      But people still don't want to hear it.

      https://m.youtube.com/shorts/MNsG0KXtEYg

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      @mekkaokereke

      That eye roll at the start...

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      • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

        Yup. Every word.

        Jayme Lawson says what all these Black people have been telling you. Including Black people with disabilities. Including Black people with Tourette syndrome. Including Black people with coprolalia.

        But people still don't want to hear it.

        https://m.youtube.com/shorts/MNsG0KXtEYg

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        @mekkaokereke This is the most concise explanation I've seen. I feel this explanation.

        What an outstanding speaker Jayme Lawson is. What a tragedy that this situation is another missed opportunity for learning and improvement in understanding what inclusion really means. Her words landed with me, maybe there are more people who will hear it?

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        • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

          Yup. Every word.

          Jayme Lawson says what all these Black people have been telling you. Including Black people with disabilities. Including Black people with Tourette syndrome. Including Black people with coprolalia.

          But people still don't want to hear it.

          https://m.youtube.com/shorts/MNsG0KXtEYg

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          @mekkaokereke

          "Institutionally we still don't know what inclusion means"

          That essentially sums up left-leaning politics for the past 15 years. Pick any community at random and you will find an ebb and flow of marginalized identities joining and then leaving en mass. There's a lack of curiosity as to why this happens so often.

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          • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

            Yup. Every word.

            Jayme Lawson says what all these Black people have been telling you. Including Black people with disabilities. Including Black people with Tourette syndrome. Including Black people with coprolalia.

            But people still don't want to hear it.

            https://m.youtube.com/shorts/MNsG0KXtEYg

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            @mekkaokereke So smart! I think it applies to queers, much the same. You can invite us, but if you don't respect our needs then you're just decorating yourself with so-called "inclusion", without asking hard questions.

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            • fromjason@mastodon.socialF fromjason@mastodon.social

              @mekkaokereke

              "Institutionally we still don't know what inclusion means"

              That essentially sums up left-leaning politics for the past 15 years. Pick any community at random and you will find an ebb and flow of marginalized identities joining and then leaving en mass. There's a lack of curiosity as to why this happens so often.

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              @fromjason Nowhere near what you're talking about, but it does remind me of 10ish years ago, I was in an Appalachian History class, and we were talking about mining. As someone from the area who had worked in mining, I thought I would correct a little bit of "nobility stereotyping" about miners I heard one flatlander going into based off their annual volunteering trip up in War, WV. They were less than polite about my "knowledge" (their quotes, not mine) and blew past it to someone who agreed with them.

              Let me stress again, absolutely apples and oranges, but that early experience outside of where I'm from has since reminded me to be more mindful about folks' experiences vs what I read from people who have no dog in the fight, as well as observational about how some folks tend to defer to the latter, even in leftist spaces where some folks tend to scream to the top of their lungs about their enlightment.

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              • fromjason@mastodon.socialF fromjason@mastodon.social

                @mekkaokereke

                "Institutionally we still don't know what inclusion means"

                That essentially sums up left-leaning politics for the past 15 years. Pick any community at random and you will find an ebb and flow of marginalized identities joining and then leaving en mass. There's a lack of curiosity as to why this happens so often.

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                @fromjason @mekkaokereke

                Yes exactly!

                In my local leftist community it happened with the bipoc folks, then happened again with the disabled folks (bipoc and white together)

                People joined, were welcomed at first, then ended up leaving en masse, because there was no genuine inclusion

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                • nilajones@zeroes.caN nilajones@zeroes.ca

                  @fromjason @mekkaokereke

                  Yes exactly!

                  In my local leftist community it happened with the bipoc folks, then happened again with the disabled folks (bipoc and white together)

                  People joined, were welcomed at first, then ended up leaving en masse, because there was no genuine inclusion

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                  @NilaJones ahhh yeah! That sucks sorry yall are going through that.

                  You ever read a truly godawful political take on the internet, from some left-leaning person, and think- this person could be an HR manager. This person could be a supervisor or a director of some sort. Like, this person is likely in charge of people in some capacity, and they haven't a clue how to handle racial issues. And that's how we get a consistent ebb and flow.

                  @mekkaokereke

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                  • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                    Yup. Every word.

                    Jayme Lawson says what all these Black people have been telling you. Including Black people with disabilities. Including Black people with Tourette syndrome. Including Black people with coprolalia.

                    But people still don't want to hear it.

                    https://m.youtube.com/shorts/MNsG0KXtEYg

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                    @mekkaokereke

                    This was so good.

                    And the brutal tragedy of the times that she paused and VISIBLY performed the "How do I put this without being dismissed as an Angry Black Woman?" calculus was sobering.

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                    • fromjason@mastodon.socialF fromjason@mastodon.social

                      @mekkaokereke

                      "Institutionally we still don't know what inclusion means"

                      That essentially sums up left-leaning politics for the past 15 years. Pick any community at random and you will find an ebb and flow of marginalized identities joining and then leaving en mass. There's a lack of curiosity as to why this happens so often.

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                      @fromjason @mekkaokereke I first learned about this pattern in a training. "Look closely at orgs that have just one or two POC in their annual pictures that don't repeat. That means the recruitment part is going ok, but there's no follow through wrt inclusion in the rest of the org's activities."

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