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A few months ago, a Canadian judge got her #amazon , #google , #uber, credit cards accounts, etc. closed.

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  • xtiano@masto.esX xtiano@masto.es

    @frank wait until they realise Europeans are doing the same 🙃

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    #5

    @Xtiano

    Yeah, Europe seems to be making big moves in tech.

    But Canada seems quite stagnant. I don't see many things moving.

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    • frank@fraxoweb.socialF frank@fraxoweb.social

      @Xtiano

      Yeah, Europe seems to be making big moves in tech.

      But Canada seems quite stagnant. I don't see many things moving.

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      @frank sometimes I feel Europe is stagnant too. Or at least not going as fast as I’d like.
      But all of my closest acquaintances don’t care about digital sovereignty. They just keep using what’s easy, simple and don’t care about the EU. I think it’s us who have to be de precursors and preachers of it. If they see us moving away maybe they’ll follow. I don’t know, I want to believe that.
      Small steps. The government speaking about it also helps.

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      • frank@fraxoweb.socialF frank@fraxoweb.social

        A few months ago, a Canadian judge got her #amazon , #google , #uber, credit cards accounts, etc. closed.

        She was doing her job investigating war crimes made in Afghanistan, including by the #USA

        That offended Americans. They decided to close all her accounts, which they have control over.

        I'm expecting this behavior to become more and more common.

        This is why #canada should work on #digitalsovereignty

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        ‘It’s surreal’: US sanctions lock International Criminal Court judge out of daily life

        Canadian judge Kimberly Prost is unable to use credit cards, transfer money or book everyday services in what she calls an attack on the independence of the judiciary

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        The Irish Times (www.irishtimes.com)

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        @frank I agree fully. Why do well sell ourselves digitally to usa?

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        • xtiano@masto.esX xtiano@masto.es

          @frank sometimes I feel Europe is stagnant too. Or at least not going as fast as I’d like.
          But all of my closest acquaintances don’t care about digital sovereignty. They just keep using what’s easy, simple and don’t care about the EU. I think it’s us who have to be de precursors and preachers of it. If they see us moving away maybe they’ll follow. I don’t know, I want to believe that.
          Small steps. The government speaking about it also helps.

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          @Xtiano

          Yeah, I know the feel. I experience the same thing, but in Canada.

          The way I see it is that I have to start building the infrastructure now. Eventually, the world will catch up and make the change when it's ready.

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          • robo105@mastodon.socialR robo105@mastodon.social

            @frank I agree fully. Why do well sell ourselves digitally to usa?

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            @Robo105

            Because the USA built the digital infrastructure faster, and we trusted them.

            So we used their services instead of creating our own.

            Now, we are paying the price.

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            • frank@fraxoweb.socialF frank@fraxoweb.social

              @Robo105

              Because the USA built the digital infrastructure faster, and we trusted them.

              So we used their services instead of creating our own.

              Now, we are paying the price.

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              #10

              @frank Well put and we can only hope it is not too late

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              • robo105@mastodon.socialR robo105@mastodon.social

                @frank Well put and we can only hope it is not too late

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                @Robo105

                Sure, but I think more people need to stop using American tech.

                Even me, I still use Visa, Mastercard, YouTube, Amazon, Discord, etc.

                They could close them at any moment given enough incentive.

                Moving out is obviously an on-going process.

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                • frank@fraxoweb.socialF frank@fraxoweb.social

                  A few months ago, a Canadian judge got her #amazon , #google , #uber, credit cards accounts, etc. closed.

                  She was doing her job investigating war crimes made in Afghanistan, including by the #USA

                  That offended Americans. They decided to close all her accounts, which they have control over.

                  I'm expecting this behavior to become more and more common.

                  This is why #canada should work on #digitalsovereignty

                  Link Preview Image
                  ‘It’s surreal’: US sanctions lock International Criminal Court judge out of daily life

                  Canadian judge Kimberly Prost is unable to use credit cards, transfer money or book everyday services in what she calls an attack on the independence of the judiciary

                  favicon

                  The Irish Times (www.irishtimes.com)

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                  @frank And, more worrying, THE WORLD DOES NOTHING. THEY LEAVE HER UP SHIT CREEK WITHOUT A PADDLE. Nice to live in a world that will happily ask for your expertise, then throw you under a bus to protect itself.

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                  • frank@fraxoweb.socialF frank@fraxoweb.social

                    A few months ago, a Canadian judge got her #amazon , #google , #uber, credit cards accounts, etc. closed.

                    She was doing her job investigating war crimes made in Afghanistan, including by the #USA

                    That offended Americans. They decided to close all her accounts, which they have control over.

                    I'm expecting this behavior to become more and more common.

                    This is why #canada should work on #digitalsovereignty

                    Link Preview Image
                    ‘It’s surreal’: US sanctions lock International Criminal Court judge out of daily life

                    Canadian judge Kimberly Prost is unable to use credit cards, transfer money or book everyday services in what she calls an attack on the independence of the judiciary

                    favicon

                    The Irish Times (www.irishtimes.com)

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                    #13

                    @frank wow I totally missed this!

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                    • racingdaily@mastodon.socialR racingdaily@mastodon.social

                      @frank And, more worrying, THE WORLD DOES NOTHING. THEY LEAVE HER UP SHIT CREEK WITHOUT A PADDLE. Nice to live in a world that will happily ask for your expertise, then throw you under a bus to protect itself.

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                      #14

                      @racingdaily

                      Sure, but if you're not tech-savvy, what are you supposed to do?

                      It's her personal accounts that got closed. Not her professional accounts.

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                      • django@social.coopD django@social.coop

                        @frank wow I totally missed this!

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                        #15

                        @django Same lol

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                        • frank@fraxoweb.socialF frank@fraxoweb.social

                          @racingdaily

                          Sure, but if you're not tech-savvy, what are you supposed to do?

                          It's her personal accounts that got closed. Not her professional accounts.

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                          @frank Where is the Canadian govt, acting on her behalf? Telling Trump to shove his illegal sanctions and threatening reprisory sanctions of their own? Where are the govts of the world, vowing to ignore the sanctions which are nothing more than a mafia state using instruments of govt to bat off accountability? All I see is a world full of subservient US dependencies who are scared stiff to cross Dear Leader. Trump could 'take' any country he likes and the world would just let it happen.

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                          • racingdaily@mastodon.socialR racingdaily@mastodon.social

                            @frank Where is the Canadian govt, acting on her behalf? Telling Trump to shove his illegal sanctions and threatening reprisory sanctions of their own? Where are the govts of the world, vowing to ignore the sanctions which are nothing more than a mafia state using instruments of govt to bat off accountability? All I see is a world full of subservient US dependencies who are scared stiff to cross Dear Leader. Trump could 'take' any country he likes and the world would just let it happen.

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                            @frank That should scare us all

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                            • racingdaily@mastodon.socialR racingdaily@mastodon.social

                              @frank Where is the Canadian govt, acting on her behalf? Telling Trump to shove his illegal sanctions and threatening reprisory sanctions of their own? Where are the govts of the world, vowing to ignore the sanctions which are nothing more than a mafia state using instruments of govt to bat off accountability? All I see is a world full of subservient US dependencies who are scared stiff to cross Dear Leader. Trump could 'take' any country he likes and the world would just let it happen.

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                              @racingdaily

                              Yeah, I don't see much about that.

                              She's getting a bit of support and raising awareness.

                              But it seems very laughable.

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                              • racingdaily@mastodon.socialR racingdaily@mastodon.social

                                @frank That should scare us all

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                                @racingdaily

                                Without a doubt lol

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                                • frank@fraxoweb.socialF frank@fraxoweb.social

                                  @racingdaily

                                  Yeah, I don't see much about that.

                                  She's getting a bit of support and raising awareness.

                                  But it seems very laughable.

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                                  @frank Spain, Ireland and S Africa are a breath of fresh air, but they are lone voices in a world that seemingly gave up on international law in 2023. They are all about preaching two-faced sermons to their own citizens to retain power for themselves, but when push comes to shove they appease genocide and fascism. They dumped democracy somewhere back down the road

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                                  • frank@fraxoweb.socialF frank@fraxoweb.social

                                    A few months ago, a Canadian judge got her #amazon , #google , #uber, credit cards accounts, etc. closed.

                                    She was doing her job investigating war crimes made in Afghanistan, including by the #USA

                                    That offended Americans. They decided to close all her accounts, which they have control over.

                                    I'm expecting this behavior to become more and more common.

                                    This is why #canada should work on #digitalsovereignty

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    ‘It’s surreal’: US sanctions lock International Criminal Court judge out of daily life

                                    Canadian judge Kimberly Prost is unable to use credit cards, transfer money or book everyday services in what she calls an attack on the independence of the judiciary

                                    favicon

                                    The Irish Times (www.irishtimes.com)

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                                    @frank

                                    The ICC Judge, Kimberly Prost is currently in #Aotearoa #NewZealand doing some university lectures. She spoke with NZ’s Q&A current affairs host, Jack Tame about the costs she’s faced since being sanctioned by the #Trump administration for attempting to investigate allegations of #WarCrimes, and why the mission of the #ICC is so important.

                                    https://youtu.be/Gz2OzR96WBI

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                                    • racingdaily@mastodon.socialR racingdaily@mastodon.social

                                      @frank Spain, Ireland and S Africa are a breath of fresh air, but they are lone voices in a world that seemingly gave up on international law in 2023. They are all about preaching two-faced sermons to their own citizens to retain power for themselves, but when push comes to shove they appease genocide and fascism. They dumped democracy somewhere back down the road

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                                      @frank And, what I see is other govts copying the authoritarian lunacy that Trump preaches. Even so-called moderate govts like UK Labour are clamping down on free speech now, and Germany has been since Merkel stood down

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                                      • jeremy_pm@mastodon.nzJ jeremy_pm@mastodon.nz

                                        @frank

                                        The ICC Judge, Kimberly Prost is currently in #Aotearoa #NewZealand doing some university lectures. She spoke with NZ’s Q&A current affairs host, Jack Tame about the costs she’s faced since being sanctioned by the #Trump administration for attempting to investigate allegations of #WarCrimes, and why the mission of the #ICC is so important.

                                        https://youtu.be/Gz2OzR96WBI

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                                        @jeremy_pm
                                        Interesting, I'll watch this.

                                        Thanks for sharing

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                                        • frank@fraxoweb.socialF frank@fraxoweb.social

                                          A few months ago, a Canadian judge got her #amazon , #google , #uber, credit cards accounts, etc. closed.

                                          She was doing her job investigating war crimes made in Afghanistan, including by the #USA

                                          That offended Americans. They decided to close all her accounts, which they have control over.

                                          I'm expecting this behavior to become more and more common.

                                          This is why #canada should work on #digitalsovereignty

                                          Link Preview Image
                                          ‘It’s surreal’: US sanctions lock International Criminal Court judge out of daily life

                                          Canadian judge Kimberly Prost is unable to use credit cards, transfer money or book everyday services in what she calls an attack on the independence of the judiciary

                                          favicon

                                          The Irish Times (www.irishtimes.com)

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                                          @frank this is very fucked 😬

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